Talk:Ma Long (footballer)

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) probable duplicate entry error on zh.wp and sodasoccer.com database. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:26, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Ma Long (footballer, born 1990) → Ma Long (footballer) – No other footballer called Ma Long has a page on English Wikipedia. Timmyshin (talk) 02:31, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Question - you're convinced no one should create an article for the other 马龙 born 1989 who plays for Qingdao? And none of the links to "Ma Long" in our football articles are actually mislinks to the Qingdao Ma Long? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:20, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

• Who is the other "Qingdao Ma Long" that you are speaking of? Because this Ma Long plays for Qingdao, and I'm not seeing 2 "Ma Long"'s under Qingdao Hainiu F.C.#Current Squad. Timmyshin (talk) 09:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

The one mentioned on the zh.wp dab page 中国足球运动员，1989年出生，现效力于青岛中能。 Is that the same as 中国足球运动员，1990年出生，现效力于山东鲁能泰山 ? In ictu oculi (talk) 03:23, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

• Again, who is this person you are speaking of? Do you see a "Ma Long" in Shandong Luneng Taishan F.C.#Current squad? You do realize that the Ma Long who plays for Qingdao played for Shandong Luneng Taishan, right? Timmyshin (talk) 10:17, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Why are you using language like "You do realize that the Ma Long who plays for Qingdao played for Shandong Luneng Taishan, right?" No I don't have to realize that when asking a question because it's your job to check this before submitting RM, as above zh.wp says they are two different players, and reliable sources such as http://sodasoccer.com/search/index.jsp also show two different players with two different photos, playing for two different Qingdao clubs - Qingdao Hainiu F.C. and Qingdao Zhongneng.

马龙(Ma Long) 角色:前卫 生日:1990-02-26 所属俱乐部:山东鲁能 Ma Long (footballer, born 1990) 青岛海牛

马龙(Ma Long) 角色:前卫 生日:1989-02-26 所属俱乐部:青岛中能 Ma Long (footballer, born 1989) In ictu oculi (talk) 01:32, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

I've bluelinked Ma Long (footballer, born 1989) as a redirect to the second Qingdao club, although still ambivalent about the actual move. Ma and Long are such common names in China that the second footballer not being notable (hence redlink on zh.wp's dab) is perhaps less of an issue than that another Ma Long will be along in a year or two. But in the intervening time ambiguating the first one, or not, isn't a big issue either way. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:42, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

• Oh yes, a midfielder Ma Long born on February 26, 1990, 177cm, 71kg, from Qingdao, right-footed played from 2009-2013 for Shandong Luneng and 2014 on loans for Qingdao Hainiu, with no records prior to 2009, and another Ma Long born exactly 365 days earlier also on February 26, hometown is also Qingdao, also 177cm, also 71kg, also plays midfielder, also right-footed, played from 2007-2008 for Qingdao Zhongneng, with no playing records after 2008. How gullible do you have to be to think they are two people? Ever heard of "age shaving"? (Which is more reason to move the page). Timmyshin (talk) 03:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the insult. It was really important and really added to the RM to make another personal attack. I just pasted in the data as in the sources. Yes it almost certainly is a duplicate data entry for the same player. But you should have found that yourself before you issued the RM by doing basic checks. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:23, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Clean up

Have cleaned up the zh.wp Ma Long dab page and moved to generic descriptor (footballer), (足球运动员) In ictu oculi (talk) 07:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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