Talk:Mabel FitzRobert, Countess of Gloucester

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What's the source for the name "Mabel FitzHamon"? Medlands calls her "Mabel FitzRobert", which makes sense because her father's name was Robert. Andrew Dalby 21:33, 29 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Since no one commented, I've changed her name and moved the page. The name now corresponds with the cited source; of course, if other sources say differently, we could move again. Andrew Dalby 18:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Good move. This does look better than the title I gave her.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

While Mabel was Countess of Gloucester she was no doubt called simply "the Countess of Gloucester" or Mabel, Countess of Gloucester. Before that, it strikes me as unlikely that she used any surname. Children were not automatically called by a name used by their father until much later. I can't believe that she was ever called "Mabel FitzRobert of Gloucester". The "Fitz" prefix was a living thing, meaning "son of", not "daughter of", and at the time the whole concept of what a surname was was at a very early stage. Unlike the Scots, the English didn't use the format "Bunbury of Anyplace", except (rather later) to disambiguate between baronies. Moonraker (talk) 01:39, 2 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

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