Talk:Mack Beggs
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Why is there nothing on the controversy this caused?
editThe article is written so it only covers the pro-whatever (rules/event/etc) This caused plenty of controversy over hormones being considered performance enhancing. It shouldn't turn the article into an anti-Beggs but it also should be more balanced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.72.40.86 (talk) 22:37, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- In what way is the article unbalanced? If there's any unfair advantage then it's due to Texas's rules which force him to compete in the girls' tournaments. This is already mentioned in the article.
- If you'd like to include anything else in the article, feel free to do so with a citation to a reliable source. --Wickedterrier (talk) 03:56, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- The unfair advantage is to an athlete using anabolic steroids (like testosterone). It doesn't matter if they're competing with boys or girls, it's a performance enhancing drug either way. Obviously a female on steroids has an advantage over a female not on steroids, but that doesn't mean a female on steroids has no advantage over a male not on steroids. Sex class is similar to weight class. Just because it's not fair for a 113 lbs wrestler on steroids to compete in the 113 lbs division doesn't mean that it's fair to compete in the 126 lbs division! 2603:6011:30B:2000:24D1:86B7:7B8B:843C (talk) 00:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Wasn't Mack taking a hormone blocker at the same time as him taking testosterone explicitly so that he wouldn't have an advantage? Also they would have been doing drugs tests so that he didn't have an excess of testosterone. OneRandomBrit (talk) 21:02, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
- The unfair advantage is to an athlete using anabolic steroids (like testosterone). It doesn't matter if they're competing with boys or girls, it's a performance enhancing drug either way. Obviously a female on steroids has an advantage over a female not on steroids, but that doesn't mean a female on steroids has no advantage over a male not on steroids. Sex class is similar to weight class. Just because it's not fair for a 113 lbs wrestler on steroids to compete in the 113 lbs division doesn't mean that it's fair to compete in the 126 lbs division! 2603:6011:30B:2000:24D1:86B7:7B8B:843C (talk) 00:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Unsigned comment
editAll he's should be replaced with Mack. Mack is who he is, it is appropriate and would stop the back and forth of he/she. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:DC00:1960:C0D6:4BB4:AC96:D607 (talk) 20:22, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
- That's an interesting idea, but it does look like the article can be maintained well with normal processes. The back and forth doesn't seem to be a current issue (the last vandalism was over 4 months ago) and if it became an issue, I'm guessing an admin could lock the article or something similar. Template:MOS-TM is included on this talk page -- the template seems to explain how Wikipedia currently handles pronouns in this situation. If you'd like to suggest replacing all pronouns with names as a broad guideline for all Wikipedia articles like this, you'd probably want to start a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies or somewhere similar. --Hebisddave (talk) 16:21, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Sex assigned at birth
editI would propose removing ", meaning he was assigned female at birth", I don't think it adds to the article's clarity (given that it comes immediately after the link to the trans man page), and because of that it becomes slightly clunky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LegateLaurie (talk • contribs) 15:03, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
his wishes
editIt's my understanding from a news article that Beggs did not want to wrestle against girls/women. This Wikipedia article seems to indicate that but does not state so clearly. This should be clarified. Kdammers (talk) 17:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)