Talk:Macquarie River
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fish river
editIs the Fish River another name for it or is that separate? --Astrokey44 06:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Fish River is a seperate river Geez-oz (talk) 18:48, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
further work
editAreas that need further attention...
- Watershed - requires description of the catchment area
- Bridges - list is incomplete
- Early History - could do with more detail, how the geology developed into this basin
- European History - more detail of history of settlement along river
- details of water use
with appropriate citations Geez-oz (talk) 18:48, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
Bogan
editSo that map showing the "catchment area", well half of that is the Bogan River, which isn't part of the Macquarie River at all. It's quite bogus to say that the Fish River is a separate river, but the Bogan River isn't.Eregli bob (talk) 16:37, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. The catchment is officially designated as the Macquarie–Bogan catchment according to the NSW Office of Water and includes the Castlereagh as well as the Macquarie–Barwon according to the Central West Catchment Management Authority. The MDBA recognises the latter broad catchment area (here). Please refer to the reference from the GNB about the river's sources. Bonzle confirms that the Fish River has its confluence to form the Macquarie near White Rock. Rangasyd (talk) 09:57, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
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Correct dual name use
editSo far there is really no guidance if the dual name use is "Wambuul Macquarie River" (with or without the dash between Wambuul and Macquarie), Macquarie River Wambuul (with or without the dash between River and Wambuul) ect. I've seen a few different ways with media and Government with the way it is used. Sadly NSW Geographical Names Board isn't of much use. :( Bidgee (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Bidgee for bringing this to the talk page as I'm not aware of any official answer. The only thing I'm sure of is that "Wambuul river" is wrong. The gazette notice confirms that both Macquarie River and Wambuul are valid geographic names, that both may be used and neither name has precedence, thus both "Macquarie River Wambuul" and "Wambuul Macquarie River" are equally valid. I chose the latter because it sounds better to me - putting something after river strikes me as a bit odd. I'm not a fan of hyphenated names but I accept others may have different views. For what it's worth the Australian Government style manual which says
When writing official dual names, use a spaced forward slash to separate the 2 parts of the name. The order should be as written in the official name, which you can check in the Australian Place Names dataset.
The latter doesn't help as Wambuul is not currently listed in that dataset, but the examples seem to suggest it would be Wambuul / Macquarie River. I will raise it at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board to get a broad range of views. --Find bruce (talk) 00:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Does seem to be the slash for Macquarie River / Wambuul or Wambuul / Macquarie River.[1]. I think we should add the slash, with my preference being "Wambuul / Macquarie River". Bidgee (talk) 00:41, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I have strong views that Wambuul needs to be included to maintain a neutral point of view - its not a new or changed name, but official recognition of a name that has been used for more than 200 years & continues to be used. Other than that I'm not too fussed. While not my personal preference, I can live with "Wambuul / Macquarie River". --Find bruce (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- The WP:COMMONNAME is Macquarie River. I have asked for the article to be moved back. It should go through the WP:RM process before moving again. Ghaemostro (talk) 06:35, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- I have strong views that Wambuul needs to be included to maintain a neutral point of view - its not a new or changed name, but official recognition of a name that has been used for more than 200 years & continues to be used. Other than that I'm not too fussed. While not my personal preference, I can live with "Wambuul / Macquarie River". --Find bruce (talk) 20:23, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Category:Rivers of New South Wales
edit@Find bruce: re [2][3][4]
The article is in Category:Tributaries of the Darling River, which is in Category:Darling River, which is in Category:Rivers of New South Wales. So far as I can tell, each of those categories and parent categories is reasonable and correct, and none the exceptions in WP:CATSPECIFIC apply. Thus, per WP:CATSPECIFIC the article ought not directly in the super-category Rivers of New South Wales, because it is already implicitly in it via the sub-categories. (The fact that some tributaries of the Darling River are in Queensland is irrelevant.) Mitch Ames (talk) 11:53, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 27 November 2024
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Macquarie River → Wambuul/Macquarie River – The river is dual named. As per the Geographical Names Board of NSW. both names have equal status and are considered official names for the river. Using both names in the title is not a breach of WP:COMMONNAME (the common name is still in the title) and it is not a breach of WP:PRECISE (Wambuul is not a clarification or disambiguation term but a core name Mattinbgn (talk) 23:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC) -- Mattinbgn (talk) 23:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)