Talk:Madonna: Truth or Dare/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lizzy150 (talk · contribs) 18:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'll be reviewing this article. Overall, it is looking great and can reach Good Article status. Here's my feedback. Just Lizzy^(talk) 18:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• "known simply as Truth or Dare and In Bed with Madonna outside" - shouldn't that be "also known as"? It's not simply obvious to some readers.  Done
• "The film was shot in black-and-white", "performance scenes were shot in color." - perhaps "edited to be in black-and-white" and "edited to be in color"? This effect is achieved during editing. Done
• "certain parts and scenes were criticized" - perhaps just "certain scenes were criticized" and maybe state what for?  Done
• "It was nominated for a Razzie Award for Worst Actress for Madonna as herself." - this can be expressed more simply as, "Madonna was nominated for a Razzie Award for Worst Actress".  Done
• "it remained" - perhaps "it was"  Done
• "It has also left its mark.." - too informal, perhaps "It has also had an impact"?  Done

Synopsis

• "The film begins" - we don't really need this

I've decided to let this here, as the film begins on a certain moment then a flashback occurs; but I'm open to suggestions and changing it if you find it really necessary

• "Freddy DeMann bets that the threat" - is "bet" the right term? I'm thinking to use "believes" or "thinks"  Done
• (There's a few small edits that I'll propose and make later)

Tour

• "theatricality" - perhaps change to "theatricals"? Easier to read in the sentence. Done

Release and promotion

• "while relaxing on tour" - you mean "during their breaks between shows"?  Done
• "For Vincent Canby" - who is he, a film critic?  Done
• "Holiday" (1983) and "Like a Virgin" (1984) - we don't need years here, and perhaps wikilink to their song pages

Removed the year. They're already linked on a previous section, let me know if it's necessary to link them again

• "On several malls" - "In several malls"  Done

Box office and home media

• Should this section be moved to after "Release and promotion"?

Added this section to below "Release and promotion" and added "Critical reception" afterwards and before "Legacy"

• "$14,000,000 million" - don't need the word 'million' here, perhaps change to "$14 million"?  Done
• "$4,500,000 million" - don't need the word 'million' here, change to "$4.5 million"  Done
• "$29,012,935 million" - don't need the word 'million' here, change to "$29 million"  Done
• "VHS in the US" - consider wikilink to VHS, and write "United States"  Done

Legacy

• Should this section be moved to after Critical reception, for better flow? Also, this section has lots of quotes (I counted 22!). This affects the encyclopedic tone, see Manual of Style - Quotations Please try paraphrasing a few of them (write them in your words). For example:

Current:

Keshishian said he was "very happy that so many gay adults and young people from all parts of the United States refer to [Truth or Dare] as their first encounter with being able to see gay men shown in such a positive, almost casual way".

To:

In 2015, Keshishian expressed his pleasure that many gay adults and young people can refer to [Truth or Dare] for being able to see gay men portrayed in a positive and casual way.

 Done

I've left the legacy section at the end and "Lawsuit" above it as both the lawsuit and legacy are after the film's release.

Thank you @Lizzy150: for the revision and observations, I look forward to anymore comment you have. --Christian (talk) 19:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@Chrishm21: Thanks, here are my (hopefully) last comments against the GA checklist:

1. Well-written - prose is clear and easy to read, although see comments below
2. Sources - article appears to have sufficient in-line sources, which are correctly formatted. (No copyright issues detected except a few quotes which are sourced.)
3. Broad - article addresses main topic
4. Stable - yes
5. Illustrated - yes, with appropriate copyright tags and alt-text

• add wikilink to HBO in the intro, and then unlink in a later sections  Done
• add wikilink to The New York Times in the Release and promotion section, and then unlink in later sections  Done
• "served as its executive producer." - don't need the word "it's" (also goes for the same phrase used in Background and production)  Done
• "The backstage footage was shot in black and white to give it a "vérité look", while the performances were in full color." - this line in Background and production also needs to be corrected as mentioned earlier  Done
• "comedienne Julie Brown" - shouldn't we use the gender-neutral term "comedian"?  Done
• "In the UK" - UK should be 'United Kingdom'  Done
• "On August 1990", "Aired on November 1991" and "On March 1993" - change 'On' to 'In' for correct grammar!  Done Just Lizzy^(talk) 11:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

All done @Lizzy150:!! I look forward to the verdict or to any other comments you may have! Thank you so much!! --Christian (talk) 13:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

This is great. I've made some tiny corrections to the article and added some wikilinks to the journalists in the reception and legacy sections. If you have any questions, let me know. Otherwise, we're good to go so I'm now promoting to GA status. Congrats! Just Lizzy^(talk) 14:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)