Talk:Mafia II

Pictures

Perhaps there could be attached some pictures? Theres five official pictures out... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.108.254.244 (talk) 19:05, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

Someone should comment further on the released screenshots. There's a lot of factual information in them that can be posted here, including "Empire City Transport", seen on the back of a bus, indicating the possible name of the City that the game will take place in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.211.220.56 (talk) 05:29, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

That would be original research. Cite reliable sources to illustrate those facts if you find any.--Svetovid 20:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Trailer

Rock and roll? Sounded a more like jive to me--Cyhborg 12:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I removed music entirely. First, it's trivial, and second it's original research.--Svetovid 14:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Lost Heaven

Could it be that this sequel will take place in Lost Heaven, the same town where the events of the original Mafia game took place? Does anyone have any evidence that support or disproof this theory? 212.161.93.3 09:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

This screenshot has a bus with "Empire City Transport" on it's back, so the game would probably be taking place in Empire City. Godfather ♣ Talk ♣ 02:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

That's still original research.--Svetovid 10:56, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

It's Empire Bay/City. BlackSabbath1996 (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Delayed

IGN: Take-Two News. Should we chuck it in the article? Delayed until 2009. GRiM-reapa (talk) 09:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Premise & Mentioned Features

These 2 sections were added randomly, and dont cite any sources

I havent seen anywhere on the internet or magazine any mention of any of these things that are written in these two sections

I think we should delete these sections until proven otherwise

Casper (talk) 22:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I've cleaned some of the grammer and spelling to match the language form for Wikipedia. 172.143.205.226 (talk) 19:06, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Europe release only?

I notice that this article has been assigned to the Europe exclusive video games category. Is this correct? Are citations needed for categories? ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 10:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Amazon.com Release Date

I noticed on the Amazon.com pages for Mafia II (Xbox 360 and PS3) the release date is October 31, 2008. It has been listed as the release date for a long time now, Amazon is usually always correct, I think it should be included in the article. Here are the links to verify my find.

Mafia II (Xbox 360)- http://www.amazon.com/Mafia-II-Xbox-360/dp/B000ZK698C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1219519511&sr=8-2

Mafia II (PS3)- http://www.amazon.com/Mafia-II-Playstation-3/dp/B00198PO5I/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1219519511&sr=8-1

General Mannino (talk) 19:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Sites such as Amazon are generally considered not to be reliable sources for release dates as they often use estimates. It would probably be best to wait until it is officially announced. Although, in WP:VG/DATE it says that "Care should be taken in stating release dates. Many commercial gaming sites, such as GameSpot, IGN, and 1UP.com, supply accurate dates, as well as vendor sites such as Amazon.com or GameStop". I believe this refers to dates given after the game has been released but I'm not sure. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 23:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't recall Amazon.com never being reliable, it usually always has the accurate release dates. General Mannino (talk) 02:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

In the video interview with Denby Grace, towards the end he says (quote) 'Mafia 2 is scheduled for a sort of 4/2009 release'. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvQ2UlEXkfk This is the most reliable source as he is the PRODUCER of the game... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.32.56.17 (talk) 04:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Pre-rendered cutscenes

It says in the article that the cutscenes were pre-rendered in Mafia I, yet they aren't - they are done in real time as a 'cut scene'. MGD11 17:35, March 07, 2009 (GMT)

Corrected now --Jvs.cz (talk) 16:29, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

allot of people have the set-idea that the word cutscenes means pre-renderd scene, mainly thanks to Nintendo/Microsoft/Sony for showing allot of footage as if it's in-game `it wasn´t just sony who did it!`Markthemac (talk) 20:48, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

System requirements: rumors

Minimal:

Processor: Pentium IV 2.25GHz or equivalent or better

RAM: 1GB (Vista 1.5 GB)

HDD: 6 GB

GPU: 256MB (GeForce 7600 or better)

System: Windows XP SP2/Vista

You may periodically search the Internet for this data, waiting for the moment when it becomes pretty much official somewhere, if it will. --Lumidek (talk) 06:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Reference to the Godfather, maybe?

It's only an assumption, but if you'd read the plot, it states that the player Vito Scaletta has just returned from world war II. It's only opinion but, this is similar to Micheal Corleones return from World War II in The Godfather. Also Vito was the first name of Don Corleone. Should we mention this, and maybe reference it? I'm only asking because in the Marketing and release section, the game makes references to The Goodfella's. The Godfather and Goodfella's are the only movies I know of that would inspire a game much like this. Not to mention, the setting is the same. It's just my opinion, though. Like I said. I just see some similarities, that's all. --Shadow6Wolf66 (talk) 23:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Mafia II was influenced by a bunch of gangster movies--including The Godfather and Godfellas, that's what I read from a video game magazine (and fansite). So, The Godfather and Goodfellas aren't the only movies that inspired this game. I wish I could find that info again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.29.121.252 (talk) 13:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I consider it the references to just be coincidences, then. But once you find this link, could you please post it?--Shadow6Wolf66 (talk) 16:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Here's the link: http://www.mafia2forum.com/wp-content/igromania4ag81.jpg and here's even more information, more video game-related magazines about Mafia II: http://www.mafia2forum.com/scans/

New link here: http://www.igromania.ru/articles/56261/Mafiya_bessmertna_Mafia_2.htm (use translator for this).

Release date

On Amazon UK it states that the game is set for release on march 31st, i'm not sure if amazon is a reliable enough source but perhaps the release date information provided here should say march-july 2010? Just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caprinoe (talk • contribs) 02:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Amazon is not considered a reliable source. Amazon so far has changed the release dates numerous times for the game, ranging from dates in 2009 to the one listed now. MOOOOOPS (talk) 02:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Soyuz says it will be available in August 26 20:00 MSD+0, it's 16:00 GMT+4. So it's August 26 for Europe, not August 27. Elk Salmon (talk) 22:04, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Character name

It states in this article that the player character is called Vito Prochilo, yet every other source states that he is called Vito Scaletta, also, the article says that the player character is of Calabrese descent, yet other sources indicate he is Sicilian, can someone please clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.82.106 (talk) 12:45, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes his name Is Vito Scaletta and he is Sicilian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.27.133.155 (talk) 04:18, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

How is this a low importance video game?

Isn't it at least mid importance? It has 13 million results on a Google search for "Mafia II video game". I think people care about this game. BlackSabbath1996 (talk) 23:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

it isn't a game changing game like Heavy Rain or the Original GTA. Markthemac (talk) 01:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

That sounds a bit like original research to me. Editor's personal opinions should not be reflected in the article. Even if no notable reviewrs have deemed it "revolutionary", it has received enough coverage to be considered mainstream and "important". I'd say it lacks the major significant cultural impact of games like Spacewar! and Doom or major franchises like Mario or GTA. Still that doesn't make it low importance, or we'd have to tag nearly every mainstream game that way. 96.228.129.69 (talk) 06:59, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Time frame

I thought that it ws set from 1945 to 1957. Am I wrong or is the article? BlackSabbath1996 (talk) 16:43, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's from the 1945's-1961. Atleast, I'm pretty sure the last chapter is 60~ish. --72.128.104.201 (talk) 05:03, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

It's from 1945 to 1951 frients. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.231.197.126 (talk) 12:08, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Time to protect the article

It seems The Xbots have added the "Playstation Controversy" section, but won't allow anyone to point out that the PS3 version scores higher in the final reviews, by reversing edits... Of course the edits are always from anonymous IP address (redmond?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.171.21 (talk) 22:17, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers

Is it possible to put a warning at places that contain spoilers? Because someone who hadn't played through the game might find out too much about the story.86.139.149.192 (talk) 02:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

No. See WP:SPOILER. BOVINEBOY2008 04:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Radio Station song Anachronisms

In the part of the game set in 1951 (which is the majority of the game) Many songs on the 'Empire Classic' radio station plays songs that did not exist in 1951 - Buddy Holly (That'll be the day, Rave On etc etc, all 1957), Eddie Cochrane's Summertime Blues from 1958. These are just the ones I recognise and remember, I suspect there are many more musical anachronisms on the soundtrack.

Be less rigorous friend. The idea is that it's the 50's, and the atmosphere is from the 50's. It does not really matter exactly when in the 50's the songs were written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.231.197.126 (talk) 12:13, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Will the story be continued in Mafia 3 or DLC ?

As the story ends on a major cliffhanger, anyone know if the story will be resolved using DLC, or Mafia 3 ?

Plot

Anyone going to make a plot section?Halofanatic333 (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to give it a try but make sure it's coherent and concise. The current "Synopsis"-section is a mess. See Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary for some help on doing so. Regards SoWhy 17:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Nvm, I rewrote it myself ;-) Regards SoWhy 06:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The Synopsis section could use some serious chopping. It hardly qualifies as a synopsis of the plot - it's more like a novelization. I'd have a go myself, but I've never played the game. Fivepast (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I can't believe how long it is! Is it possible to shorten it down a bit? 92.18.214.69 (talk) 20:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Cast

Any chance of adding a section with the cast of voice-actors, like many other game articles? 66.30.138.67 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC).

Tone

Just saw this in the article. Not very Encyclopediac. "Another good feature is when the game takes no loading times through entering and leaving rooms and buildings and they state this on the game's cover." 199.94.94.20 (talk)EmersonGuy

Tommy Angelo

In Chapter 15, the protagonist from Mafia I makes a short cameo. He's the elderly gentleman watering his lawn who gets mowed down by Vito and Joe. If a detailed synopsis ever gets written up, this should be incorporated, because I came to this Wiki page looking for confirmation. (I've never played Mafia I). I didn't get the info from this Wiki page, but the Mafia I page.

58.111.74.78 (talk) 14:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)witcheemon

You're right. I've played Mafia I and the last scene from the game featured Tommy Angelo (who had changed his name after entering the witness protection programme for ratting out Salieri) watering his lawn, and 2 gentlemen got off from a car, asked politely if that was Tommy Angelo, and then said "Mr Salieri sends his regards". They had 2 luparra small shotguns and mowed down Tommy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.231.197.126 (talk) 12:18, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Average reviews?

Mafia II received average reviews from critics. IGN gave the game 7/10...IGN AU gave it a 8.0/10...Gamespot gave it 8.5...Game Informer gave it a 9.0/10... The most negative review came from Eurogamer who gave the game a 4/10...

These don't sound like average reviews. In my book, an average review is centered around 5 on a scale of 1-10. If 4 was the lowest review and most of the notable magazines gave it 7+, we have to assume the mean score is well above 5 if everyone uses a 0-10 scale. Personally, I've never played the game and came here to read about it, but the way the reception is phrased makes the article misleading. I'm rephrasing it to "Mafia II received generally positive reviews from critics." 96.228.129.69 (talk) 07:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

No Mafia II controversy?

How come there is no mention about controversy about heavily cutting the game and fans' reactions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krystian4842 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Amended the article to suit this. Heterozygous4442

song listing

I don't know where to put the following.

Decade	Radio	Title	Artist
1940	Classic Radio
		Beatin' The Dog	Joe Venuti & Eddie Lang
		Belleville	Django Reinhardt
		Blue Skies	Muddy Waters
		By The Light Of The Silvery Moon	Bing Crosby
		Clarinet Marmalade	Frankie Trumbauer & His Orchestra
		Come On And Stomp Stomp Stomp	Johnny Dodds' Black Bottom Stompers
		Goin' Places	Joe Venuti & Eddie Lang
		Good Little Bad Little You	Edwards, Cliff And His Hot Combination
		Happy Feet	Cab Calloway
		Riverboat Shuffle	Frankie Trumbauer & His Orchestra
		Stringing The Blues (V.2)	Joe Venuti & Eddie Lang
		The Best Things In Life Are Free	The Ink Spots
		You're Driving Me Crazy	Django Reinhardt
	Delta Radio
		Ain't That Just Like A Woman	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		Caldonia Boogie	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		Choo Choo Ch'boogie	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		Did You Ever Love A Woman	Gatemouth
		Everybody Eats When They Come To My House	Cab Calloway
		Friendship	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		G.I. Jive	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		Gangster's Blues	Peetie Wheatstraw
		I Cant Lose With The Stuff I Use	Lester Williams
		Inflation Blues	Jack Mcvea
		Mercy Mr. Percy	Varetta Dillard
		Open The Door Richard	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		Pachuko Hop	Ike Carpenter Orchestra
		Ration Blues	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		Rock Around The Clock Singer	Hal Singer
		That Chick's Too Young To Fry	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
		That'll Get It	Dixon Flloyd
		The Fat Man	Fats Domino
		What's The Use Of Getting Sober (When You Gonna Get Drunk Again)	Louis Jordan & His Tympany Five
	Empire Radio
		Baby It's Cold Outside	Dinah Shore
		Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy	Andrews Sisters, The
		Buttons And Bows	Dinah Shore
		Happiness Is A Thing Called Joe	Peggy Lee
		Held For Questioning	Rusty Draper
		I Haven't Time To Be A Millionaire	Bing Crosby
		It Don't Mean A Thing	Duke Ellington
		I've Got A Pocketful Of Dreams	Bing Crosby
		Java	The Big Bands Moonglow
		Let It Snow	Dean Martin
		Pennies From Heaven	Bing Crosby
		Praise The Lord And Pass The Ammunition	Kay Kyser
		Rum And Coca Cola	Andrews Sisters, The
		Sing, Sing, Sing 300 Minutes	Benny Goodman
		Straighten Up And Fly Right	Andrews Sisters, The
		Strip Polka	Andrews Sisters, The
		The Dipsy Doodle	Tommy Dorsey
		The Pessimistic Character	Bing Crosby
		There'll Be A Hot Time In The Town Of Berlin	Andrews Sisters, The
		Victory Polka	Andrews Sisters, The
		Why Don't You Do Right	Peggy Lee
1950
	Classic Radio
		900 Miles	Billy Merman
		After The Lights Go Down Low	Al Hibbler
		Ain't That A Kick In The Head	Dean Martin
		Auf Wiederseh'n, Sweetheart	Les Baxter
		Che La Luna	Louis Prima
		Chow Mein	The Gaylords
		Count Every Star	Al Hibbler
		Jezebel	Frankie Laine
		Let The Good Times Roll	Sam Butera & The Witnesses
		Makin' Whoopee	Doris Day
		Mambo Italiano	Rosemary Clooney
		Manhattan Spiritual	Reg Owen Orchestra
		My Bonnie Lassie	Ames Brothers, The
		My Guardian Angel	Jimmy Breedlove
		Oh Marie	Louis Prima
		Ooh Baby Ooh	Dave Appell
		Pennies From Heaven	Louis Prima
		Return To Me	Dean Martin
		Springtime In Monaco	Billy Merman
		That's Amore	Dean Martin
		The Closer To The Bone	Louis Prima
		The Peanut Vendor	Perez Prado
		When You're Smiling	Louis Prima
	Delta Radio
		Ain't That A Shame	Fats Domino
		Bo Diddley	Bo Diddley
		Boom Boom	John Lee Hooker
		Framed	Coasters, The
		Got My Mojo Working	Muddy Waters
		Honey Love	The Drifters Feat. Clyde Mcphatter
		I Put A Spell On You	Screamin' Jay Hawkins
		In The Still Of The Night	The Five Satins
		Keep A Knockin'	Little Richard
		Ling Ting Tong	The Five Keys
		Long Tall Sally	Little Richard
		Lucille	Little Richard
		Mannish Boy	Muddy Waters
		Nadine	Chuck Berry
		No Particular Place To Go	Chuck Berry
		One Kiss Led To Another (Brazil)	Coasters, The
		Rags To Riches	Jackie Wilson
		Smokestack Lightnin'	Howlin' Wolf
		Speedoo	Cadillacs, The
		Who Do You Love	Bo Diddley
	Empire Radio
		All I Have To Do Is Dream	Everly Brothers, The
		At The Hop	Danny & The Juniors
		Book Of Love	The Monotones
		Cannonball	Duane Eddy
		C'mon Everybody	Eddie Cochran And Jerry Capehart
		Come On Let's Go	Richie Valens
		Come Softly To Me	Fleetwoods, The
		Donna	Ritchie Valens
		Don't Let Go	Roy Hamilton
		Forty Miles Of Bad Road	Duane Eddy
		Maybe	The Chantels
		Money (That's What I Want)	Barrett Strong
		Movin' N' Groovin'	Duane Eddy
		Mr Sandman	Chordettes, The
		Not Fade Away	Buddy Holly
		Rave On	Buddy Holly
		Rebel Rouser	Duane Eddy
Rock Around The Clock		Bill Haley & His Comets
Sh-Boom		Crew Cuts, The
Stood Up		Ricky Nelson
Summertime Blues		Eddie Cochran
Teen Beat		Sandy Nelson
Tequila		The Champs
That'll Be The Day		Buddy Holly
Why Do Fools Fall In Love		Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers
You Can Have Her		Roy Hamilton

The general rule is that it should only be included in the article if it has been released as an official soundtrack CD. As far as I can find, the only Mafia II soundtrack release is the orchestral score. - X201 (talk) 09:05, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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The observatory

The observatory in game definitively looks like Griffith Observatory, Los Angeles but did any one have reliable source as citation? Matthew hk (talk) 01:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)