Talk:Magic: The Gathering Commander

Competitive EDH

@WordyTalks: Thanks for finding reliable secondary source; the editor of the book is also an editor for the Analog Game Studies journal which is a really useful academic source. I do have a question about the first part you quoted since this quote matches word-for-word a reddit post - what is the context for the author (Calvin Liu) quoting this reddit post? Is there something Liu wrote that can be quoted or can you rephrase the first sentence so it doesn't include a quote at all? Sariel Xilo (talk) 16:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@SarielXilo: So in his Methods Section on Page 172 discusses that he "performed a discourse analysis of the r/EDH subreddit, a subreddit board dedicated to the Commander format. The subreddit vaguely positions itself as 'Reddit's #1 source for EDH and Commander content.'"

The direct quotation for defining cEDH is on page 175 stating: "As one players states, 'Competitive EDH is a multiplayer format with the same rules as normal commander, sharing the same ban list. It differs from casual commander in that it does not have budget, power level, or social contract restrictions on the strategies it employs.'"

I had no idea personally that he was directly citing that reddit page word for word but based on the context of his Methods section alongside citing the "player", it can probably be reasonably assumed he cited that Reddit page itself and either didn't include the Redditor as the intended author or thought his reference to the EDH subreddit was sufficient. WordyTalks (talk) 16:09, 17 September 2024 (CDT)

Do you think this line would work as a summation of Liu's quote?: "Competitive EDH has the same rules and banlist as Commander but it differs in that it has no restrictions on its own strategies, forgoing the typical social contracts in favor of pursuing the most optimal strategies to win." Do you think that would suffice for a revision of the quote if that's the direction to go? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WordyTalks (talk • contribs) 21:19, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

That sounds good! If there's anything else that looks interesting in that or you think can support poorly sourced (or even unsourced) statements on the various articles on Magic, that would be awesome to include. Wikipedia:WikiProject Magic: The Gathering isn't the most active project but under statistics you can find links to all the articles that fall under the Magic banner. Sariel Xilo (talk) 21:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Can do for both of those. I'll add the edit now and check the project after I get off work. Question, I have the book itself in a pdf format but don't know where to possibly upload it. Would that be an option in the Reference section or would I find somewhere in the Wikimedia Commons section for that? WordyTalks (talk) 17:32, 17 September 2024 (CDT)

It is a book under copyright so you should not upload that onto the Commons or any other wiki (see Wikipedia:Copyrights). Sariel Xilo (talk) 03:26, 18 September 2024 (UTC)