Talk:Magnus Pääjärvi

Surname

Seems to be wide confusion about surname order and dash or not.

• Svensson Pääjärvi is used here, on Birthday.se (a site who tries to mirror authorities in Sweden) and on the IIHF site.
• Svensson-Pääjärvi is used on Eurohockey.net, [HockeyDB.com, and inside the Swehockey.se stats page.
• Pääjärvi Svensson is used on Eliteprospects.com.
• Pääjärvi-Svensson is used on the Timrå IK junior roster page and his Timrå IK profile page.
• ...and just Pääjärvi was used repeatedly by TV commentaries in Sweden during the WJHC.

--Bamsefar75 (talk) 22:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Before I created this article I looked in to it since there are plenty of variations. But I think it's quite clear that his name is Svensson Pääjärvi, in that order and without dashes. I used Ratsit as my reference, and Ratsit use official records. Also the Swedish Ice Hockey Association has him listed as Svensson Pääjärvi in all their documents ([1], [2], etc). And during the WJHC his jersey had Svensson Pääjärvi on it ([3]). --Krm500 (talk) 23:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Svensson Pääjärvi is indeed the most used version at this time. However, I would not be suprised if there will be changes in the future. Peter Regin was listed as Peter Regin Jensen and similar in some of his early WJHC. My list above is just a note for future references. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 18:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if he drops Svensson, since Pääjärvi is very characteristic and a rare surname for a swede. But that is all speculations, and right now Svensson Pääjärvi is what we should use for the article. --Krm500 (talk) 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

While he used the double surname in WJC, he now played in the 2008 IIHF World U18 Championships as Magnus Paajarvi. I added two redirects for this. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 16:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Honestly: I think we should go with whatever he is drafted as tonight and keep it as such unless he changes it later ala Semen->Semyon->Simeon Varlamov or Evgeni->John->Evgeni Nabokov. ccwaters (talk) 13:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I think we can wait until he makes his NHL debut when it then will be very clear what name he'll use. —Krm500 ^{(Communicate!)} 13:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Or I think we can change it now to Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson, which is what they will use at the draft, and then when he makes his debut I would assume he'll only have Pääjärvi on his jersey. Thoughts? —Krm500 ^{(Communicate!)} 13:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm ok with that. I also think the draft page (specifically) should stay as it written tonight. I just made a similar edit regarding Varlamov: [[4]] ccwaters (talk) 13:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

It wouldnt be Pääjärvi in the NHL, but Paajarvi. :) I guess we should use Pääjärvi-Svensson or maybe Pääjärvi. By the way, he is already using a Pääjärvi-only jersey. Check the last picture in this February 19 photoset from Timrå IK. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 15:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

OMG, their names are on there somewhere? :) ccwaters (talk) 15:29, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, and also advertisment... NHL jerseys dont allow it, I guess. :) --Bamsefar75 (talk) 15:56, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

(Outdent) Its worth noting that his official site (here) referes to him as "Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson." Kaiser matias (talk) 23:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

To further this, he is being referred to as MPS by nearly every source now (NHL, TSN, THN, etc). If no one objects, I'm going to move the page when the draft ends in a few hours, as we seem to be the only place that keeps calling him MSP. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Someone already did, but I think we should discuss if it should now be Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson or simply Magnus Pääjärvi. —Krm500 ^{(Communicate!)} 00:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

He has been called MPS (I'm not spelling out his full name each time, especially since I can't type diacritics), mostly, but maybe we should wait and see what the NHL calls him. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

This leaf blogger suggests "CTRL-V". --Bamsefar75 (talk) 00:53, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry if I'm relaunching this discussion, but I'm of the opinion that the article should be moved back to its original title, which was "Magnus Svensson Pääjärvi". Sure, it may elaborate disambiguation even more, and the Oilers' profile for the player (or the active roster) lists his surname as just "Paajarvi". But, the SIHA, Ratsit, Birthday.se and other official sites show that his surname is officially registered as "Svensson Pääjärvi" (without the dash). Further, I don't see any reasons at all as to why the Svensson part of his surname shouldn't be included in the article name. I'm not satisfied with having it as just "Pääjärvi". HeyMid (contribs) 21:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

• I believe it was removed because he has stated he no longer uses that part of his name. He had used it in the past as a homage to his mother or something like that. But that since moving to north america he decided to switch to his actual name to make it easier. I am sure common use has switched by now after a year...and if it hasn't it will soon enough. And there are redirects for anyone that searches for the other reason. -DJSasso (talk) 17:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I think the page title is good as-is since its common use, but the intro lede should be MPS, since that's what he uses on his official website; and to my knowledge, thats what was used the most up to his draft (I always knew hims as MPS when I was tracking prospects, not the other way around, which I think happened after?) Just my 2c.--Львівське (talk) 22:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

IPA

I have no idea how to properly pronounce this guy's name. Could someone add an IPA pronunciation to the page? 68.179.126.129 (talk) 17:28, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Having quite little IPA experience here, but the Finnish half of his surname is available in fractions on the Wiktionary as pää and järvi which should become [ pæːˈjærʋi ]. I'm not sure about Magnus and Svensson, but unless it can be copied from some famous Swede artcile with either of those names, it may be simple enough to be figured out since they are common names (Magnus is top 25 and Svensson is top 10 in Sweden). --Bamsefar75 (talk) 21:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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