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Notable alumni
editThe alumni of Anna University and PSG College of Technology are same, Somebody please clarify.--Citsamraj (talk) 10:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
NO. But since year 2001 the PSG College of Technology is affiliated to Anna University. Further, Prof. A. G. Ramakrishnan is alumni of PSG College of Technology, but not of Anna University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krishnan KP (talk • contribs) 10:42, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Famous People
editWe definitely need more people in the Notable Alumni list. Can someone give me more details about "Sridhar Sundaresan, Computer Scientist"? Googling did not help. Jbritto
I no longer think this Notable Alumni Section is a good idea. I don't even know half these people. What is a Serial Entrepreneur anyway? Jbritto
I too feel the same. 'Notable Alumni Section' is either a bad idea here or it should include only persons of national/international reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krishnan KP (talk • contribs) 10:47, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Crazy Mohan : Appears twice —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicechandru (talk • contribs) 09:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
External Links / Queer Anna
editNow, I do not want to get into an edit war over editing the link to the online LGBT support group. Hope, we can have a civil discussion in these pages rather than resorting to an edit war.Sundar
It is bonafide material, connected to Anna University. It is a serious discussion/support group. So, if anyone has any genuine concerns with the link, they should put up their concern out here, to be discussed. Brute deletion of material, especially repeated deletion, is highly incourteous. A similar link on SVCE webpage is also being deleted repeatedly. If this continues, I will have to resort to arbitration. Hope people can behave themselves.Ramki 19:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- Link removed. See discussion in article on CEG. Threats of "resorting to arbitration" while indulging in such a blatant perversion of the purpose of Wikipedia just sounds juvenile.Jbritto 19:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Link readded. The reason given is nothing, apart from petty namecalling. How the link is a "perversion of the purpose of Wikipedia" is beyond me. If you could provide any clarifying material, it would be appreciated.Ramki 20:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- See the discussion in the Talk:College_of_Engineering,_Guindy article for a better explanation. Sundar is honest (as expected) in admitting that visibility for the group is one of the reasons why you feel it needs to be in the article. This, in my opinion, and many others', goes against the purpose of wikipedia (see links below). I understand that there is hostility towards LGBT groups in many places, and the person repeatedly deleting without explanation is probably doing it with malice, but there really is very little reason to argue that this group is relevant and important to Anna University. It is just as irrelevant to AU as a group that promotes straight sexual orientation, or a group that strives to save the six-petalled adyar water-lilly. Jbritto 22:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Let me ask you this - how many student groups are there at Anna U.? My guess would be a lot. Wikipedia is not in the habit of selecting certain student groups to highlight at a given university. In fact, if you read WP:EL, you'll notice that this fits nicely under "links to avoid", criteria number 3 and 12. --Bachrach44 13:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Relevance?! I dont know why everybody is so particular about deleting this information and taking such pains to prove its irrelevance. As a student myself, i found the link interesting and useful (and relevant). given that this site on Anna Univ has only a few paragraphs on "Dress Code", perhaps those who DELETE can try to be more constructive and THEN start on destruction ???????. Now i don't know understand how 3&12 are relevant. Can i ask the owners to add the link again?
And oh - this group does not(and no group indeed can!) 'promote sexual orientation'. it seems to have a purpose - of supporting students who need help. straight students by and large don't need help with their sexual orientation, and yes, if they did, and there was a group for that, that is probably a good candidate too. ultimately it benefits the 'Anna University' community. and yes, if the "six-petalled adyar water lilly" was the centerpiece of our campus and it was a dying species, who knows, it may have even been a relevant article.
Its precisely for people like this, who misunderstand, who mis-relate, that we need a link here; because people like us need to live with people like you, endure, survive, and live. and a little support is very useful. and more so in a college environment which is a critical phase of life. Sigh.
Shouldnt it be applied sciences in the very first sentence of the article instad of allied sciences?
Moving
editAs Anna University has been divided into four,I think we can move this to the name : Anna University(Chennai) and enter the four university links in this page.I hope people would search for Coimbatore and trichy anna university too and they had to go deep into this article to get that links.As the powers are same for all the divisions,why cant we make this page for listing the four divisions,giving a brief about them. And moving this to chennai divison article? -- Vatsan34 (talk) 12:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- It should be moved. But the question is whether the title should be
- Anna University, Chennai or
- Anna University (Chennai) or
- Anna University Chennai -- Jovianeye (talk) 16:27, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Anna University Chennai fits the best! -- Vatsan34 (talk) 06:31, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- There is a problem that has to be fixed. The page Anna University Chennai already exists. Hence, a move will not be possible unless that page is deleted. Jovianeye (talk) 06:40, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you really want to do the move, simply replace the content in Anna University Chennai - Amog | Talk • contribs 20:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Anna University was never divided/split, those were new universities created by goverment of Tamil Nadu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krishnan KP (talk • contribs) 15:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Except all the sources say otherwise. For example, see http://www.autcbe.ac.in/about.aspx : "Since the number of institutions in the state was continuously rising every year and 240 during 2006, for administrative convenience, Anna University was divided into ONE Unitary type and Five Affiliated Type Universities namely" --Muhandes (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Anna University, Chennai has its official website http://www.annauniv.edu, and this alone needs to be quoted for the main information, and not the other universities websites. All departments of Anna University are in same status as before. Furthermore, no teaching/non-teaching faculties were transferred to newly created universities. This information can be verified with registrar of Anna University, Chennai. The name “Anna Universities” was used as suffices in the name of other newly created university only to exploit the reputation of existing Anna University. Finally, the information mentioned at http://www.autcbe.ac.in/about.aspx is not accurate at all. But, why to bother; they are neither original nor divided part of Anna University, Chennai. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krishnan KP (talk • contribs) 15:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not trying to be fussy here, but please, is there any source you can bring to this effect? When one source is quoted saying one thing, you can't just say it is wrong - you should bring another source saying it is wrong. --Muhandes (talk) 06:17, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
The premise of starting this discussion is flawed. >>"As Anna University has been divided into four" No, Anna university was not divided. You can see that its website is still functional and my juniors are still studying there. What actually happened was it's affiliating business was handed over to newly created Anna Universities of Technology(4 in number, one for each part of TN). Of the four chennai area is managed by AUT-Chennai whose website is http://www.annatech.ac.in/ Nothing happened to Anna University. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aki 27 (talk • contribs) 12:38, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- Again, I point you to the discussion below started by BabuOnWiki and to my response to him. In short, again, the UGC list has a different view than what you say. If a source (such as the Act text for instance) can show the UGC is wrong, we will change the article, and even then, only in a merge process. --Muhandes (talk) 13:09, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Current situation
editAs it stands now, this article serves for describing the history of Anna University up to the split, where Anna University, Chennai serves as the article for the new entity. This is not my doing, but as this is the status quo for more than a year, it represents at least some consensus. I ask that any changes to this situation be discussed here first. --Muhandes (talk) 19:11, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you changed the 'is' to 'was'. I wish to clarify certain things regarding that. This university('AU') is(and will be) functional no matter the status of the legislation about Anna Universities of Technology('AUT'). AU was formed on 1978 by combining 4 colleges and was unitary till the job of affiliations was handed over to it. Later 4 new AUTs were formed and affiliation business was handed over to them. Now again a bill is pending govt notification on when the job of affiliation will be handed back to AU (&dissolution of AUT) will be. So, no matter the status of bill(which deals only with affiliation) AU is(will be) functioning as it has been from 1978 as far as its unitary 4 campus departments are concerned. The section "Aided and Affiliated Colleges" in this article can be changed after discussion about the government’s recent laws. I'll change the was to is. :-) Akilan (talk) 12:24, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- First, I did not change "is" to "was". Someone else changed the "was" to "is", against consensus, and I reverted and asked to discuss here first. As to what I think the correct one is, see discussion below with BabuOnWiki who made a similar suggestion to what you suggested and my answer to him. In short, the article follows the UGC list. Anyway, I suggest you comment there. --Muhandes (talk) 12:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Changes after 2010
editHi people, for your kind info, Anna Univ Chennai now again got its status changed to Unitary univ without any affiliation providing facilities. For that, Anna Universities of Technology is created in many zones viz. Chennai(CPT, Campus), Kovai, Madurai, Trichy, Nellai. Anna University is a unitary univ combining four colleges - CEG, MIT, ACT and SAP. Other Govt/Govt aided colleges come under Anna University of Technology situated at the respective zones. Anna University will be responsible for Research and Academics alone. This information is authenticated s I've got this from a Prof of MIT. Soon, website will be created separately for University and University of Technologies. Wait and watch for updates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babuonwiki (talk • contribs) 12:04, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information. Once a reliable source for this is available, it should be added to the article. --Muhandes (talk) 12:26, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
check out dis link for constituent col details http://www.annauniv.edu/aboutus.php
it don't mean correct that adding all the govt colleges to anna university as its constituent colleges. as a student of this university i've added the details on this pages after confirming from senior professors. But its pity to watch on wikipedia that the contents of "Anna University" and "Anna University, Chennai" are interchanged. Anna Univ passouts are only pleased to edit this page. And waiting for the update from the univ's website about bifurcation will take time. Now school students may refer this wiki page. So please lets arrive at a conclusion. --Sathishbabu 18:12, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't follow. Is anyone stopping you from updating Anna University, Chennai or this article with data from reliable sources? What exactly does anyone need to decide about? --Muhandes (talk) 20:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Unsourced alumni list
editThe alumni list has been waiting for inline sources, as required by WP:NLIST, for six months, and I believe this is long enough to wait. I removed the entire unsourced list, and it is available below. Feel free to restore any of these, with proper reliable sources.
This article's list of alumni may not follow Wikipedia's verifiability policy. (January 2010) |
- Raj Reddy, A. M. Turing Award laureate
- D Udaya Kumar, Indian Rupee symbol designer
- Akkineni Nagarjuna, movie actor
- Krishnamachari Srikkanth, cricketer
- Srinivasaraghavan Venkataraghavan, cricketer
- Upendra J. Chivukula, politician in the United States
- Raaghav, film music director
- Vineeth Srinivasan, singer
- Susi Ganesan, MIT, Tamil film director
- Crazy Mohan, comedy actor and writer
GCE Bargur
editI've corrected the locality of this GCE many times, but somehow it is reverted. So let me place an authenticated references here. It is Govt. College of Engg., Bargur and not Govt. College of Engg., Bargurbhinmal!
Please follw the above links. --BabuOnWiki (talk) 04:44, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- I apologize. I wanted to revert the citation needed tag which was added to the hatnote, and by mistake reverted this edit as well. It was not my intention to dispute this obvious name change. --Muhandes (talk) 05:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Update September 2011
editThe bill to re-merge the universities was passed on 14 September 2011. I read however, that this is "paving the way for the merger", and does not actually merge the universities back. Could someone comment on what more is required for the actual merge to occur? I propose not to merge the articles until the actual merge. --Muhandes (talk) 05:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- Legislation will be sent to dept. concerned and they'll publish it in the Tamil Nadu Govt. Gazette. Once it is published in gazette it becomes an act and after which the university will announce the merger and calling back the vice-chancellors. --BabuOnWiki (talk) 05:34, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
2007-2010
editThis article means that a new unitary non-affiliating Anna University, Chennai was created. If so, Is that proved in the so called Anna University, Chennai's official website? (Don't refer AUTCBE) Anna University was split and new universities of technology was formed. The parent univ's authority and control was changed and former was in existence till now with a different name. --BabuOnWiki (talk) 05:58, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
- If I understand correctly, you are suggesting to Merge Anna University, Chennai into Anna University so this article maintains continuity. Your view is that in 2007 five technological universities were split from the main one and the main one renamed, not as the article suggests, the main one was split into six universities and ceased to officially exist. If this is indeed what you are proposing, you may want to change this into a formal merger proposal. As for the facts, I think your view definitely has its supporting sources, e.g. lately this. However, the UGC does not see it this way. If you look at the UGC List of State Universities you see that all the institutes with "Anna University" have establishment date of 2006 or later. Does anyone have access to the text of the Act or Bill that officially did the split? --Muhandes (talk) 07:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Your understanding of what Babuonwiki says is correct and indeed is correct situation. As far your query for text of act, it is here. As you can see from chapter ix (titled 'Transfer Of Colleges') that nothing happened to old university and only affiliated colleges were transfered to new ones. Also to note is that the act says(section 53-4) the students who joined the affiliated colleges before this act came into force(2010) will continue to be in Anna University(and degree will be conferred in its name) and only new batches starting from 2010 will be admitted in AUT name. So, there are still 3 more years for this university to cease to exist even if its unitary campuses were killed off.(of course that did not happen; only affiliated ones were transferred). So, I guess the university is alive and well, and 'is' can be substituted instead of 'was'. I'm awaiting your opinion after you have read the act. Akilan (talk) 13:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- I am sorry that I have to run and will not have time to give this the attention it requires until tomorrow night. In the meantime, as I said above, since the current situation is more than a year old, if you believe Anna University, Chennai should be merged into Anna University, you should start a formal merge process and let editors who might have a different opinion a chance to comment. --Muhandes (talk) 13:25, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- I had a chance to look at the Act and indeed I don't see any mention that the original university ceased to exist in this Act. I also don't see any mention of the creating of four other universities, is that something that can be found on another Act? Anyway, I do not object merging the articles (which would also replace the "was" with "is", as well as change the other five articles) but I repeat what I said above: since this is the situation in Wikipedia for over a year, I think a formal merge process should be started to let other editors voice their opinion before changing it. You will definitely want to notify WP:INEI of the merge discussion as well. --Muhandes (talk) 16:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Merger Sanctioned
editThis is for the guardian of this page to note that Merger of all Anna Universities into single one has been sanctioned by the Govt. of Tamil Nadu. The G.O has been released in DIPR which could be viewed here. This press release is in Tamil. So I request to include this unification in Wikipedia. --BabuOnWiki (talk) 12:05, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Anna University Wikipedia Page should be available in the language TAMIL also.
editSince this university is a part and parcel of India, the page must be available to all in the TAMIL language also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.177.139.67 (talk) 10:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
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Merge from Sasurie College of Engineering
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was merge to Anna University. Aloneinthewild (talk) 11:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
The unreferenced Sasurie College of Engineering states that "It was founded in 2001 and affiliated to Anna University.". Perhaps it could be merged here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:43, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- Support in principle, but I'm not sure what material you can merge since there are no sources provided. You may as well Redirect. --Muhandes (talk) 18:54, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
redirect link
editA redirect link to this page (Anna University) from Mount Zion College of Engineering and Technology should be removed. சத்திரத்தான் (talk) 06:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The main building
editis an old British fort? Revery (talk) 11:33, 4 September 2023 (UTC)