Talk:Majesty
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So what shall be done with the "H"?
editI'm posting this question here. I'm not sure if it's been considered or addressed in other forums, but this article is where the disambiguation redirect heads from searching for selecting the (style) entry from the Her Majesty page.
My question is, when the Queen of The United Kingdom (or any other monarch this may be applicable for) dies, and an individual of the other gender ascends to the throne...what do we do with all the articles called "Her Majesty's <whatever>"? Do we have a plan or policy in place for when this happens?
Sdr 23:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- We change Her to His. Simple as that. Charles 00:37, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, but then the article names are all different, and the article content must all be moved, along with edit histories, etc., and then a bunch of redirects have to be made...every time the gender of a monarch changes. Without the redirects, external sites, and even internal links, may be subject to link rot.
- And that's just for the article names, what about any article that uses either style while only listing the form for a single gender?
- Why not simply make a list of the affected articles, recreate them as "His or Her Majesty's" now, and then by fixing them in the present/near future, we avoid the long-term, dynamic problems that could easily arise every so often?
- Also, any idea if there would be a much better place to put forth an idea like this?
- Thanks,
- Sdr 23:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- This could potentially be a big problem. The current Queen is past the prime of her life (to put it mildly) and won't live forever. The next monarch is very likely to be male. This will necessitate changing just gobs of Wikipedia pages -- Her_Majesty's_Government, Her_Majesty's_Ship, Her_Majesty's_Theatre, Her_Majesty's_Botanist, Her_Majesty's_Coastguard, Her_Majesty's_Courts_Service, Her_Majesty's_Canadian_Ship, Her_Majesty's_Prison_Service, Her_Majesty's_Custom's_and_Excise, Her_Majesty's_Chief_Inspector_of_Prisons, Her_Majesty's_Inspectorate_of_Constabulary, Her_Majesty's_Young_Offender_Institution, Her_Majesty's_Inspectorate_of_Education And that's just the first few on the list. The list is actually rather long. Perhaps this Netherlands page -- His/Her Netherlands Majesty's Ship -- should be held up as an example of how pages like this should be structured. More countries than Great Britain following this naming convention, Australia, Canada, Netherlands, to name a few. I've created a template that can be put at the top of pages like this, with usage HHM|object (in curly braces). This way, once the pages are renamed His/Her Majesty's [whatever], only the template page would have to be changed in the future. For instance, for the page Her Majesty's Ship (which should be renamed to His/Her Majesty's Ship, we could put the following (look at it in edit mode to see the simple template: Banaticus 01:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- This could potentially be a big problem. The current Queen is past the prime of her life (to put it mildly) and won't live forever. The next monarch is very likely to be male. This will necessitate changing just gobs of Wikipedia pages -- Her_Majesty's_Government, Her_Majesty's_Ship, Her_Majesty's_Theatre, Her_Majesty's_Botanist, Her_Majesty's_Coastguard, Her_Majesty's_Courts_Service, Her_Majesty's_Canadian_Ship, Her_Majesty's_Prison_Service, Her_Majesty's_Custom's_and_Excise, Her_Majesty's_Chief_Inspector_of_Prisons, Her_Majesty's_Inspectorate_of_Constabulary, Her_Majesty's_Young_Offender_Institution, Her_Majesty's_Inspectorate_of_Education And that's just the first few on the list. The list is actually rather long. Perhaps this Netherlands page -- His/Her Netherlands Majesty's Ship -- should be held up as an example of how pages like this should be structured. More countries than Great Britain following this naming convention, Australia, Canada, Netherlands, to name a few. I've created a template that can be put at the top of pages like this, with usage HHM|object (in curly braces). This way, once the pages are renamed His/Her Majesty's [whatever], only the template page would have to be changed in the future. For instance, for the page Her Majesty's Ship (which should be renamed to His/Her Majesty's Ship, we could put the following (look at it in edit mode to see the simple template: Banaticus 01:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Her Majesty's Ship is named His/Her Majesty's Ship (after the reigning King or Queen) as appropriate at the time. When the reigning monarch is male, the Ship is termed His Majesty's Ship. When the reigning Monarch is female, the Ship is termed Her Majesty's Ship. Banaticus 01:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- The first few sentences of "Usage in Africa" could possibly be expanded to provide more detail. The section concerning the "rarest of tribes" bothers me, since this is a modern, artificial, European-American construct. The writer of this section says that they "claim" 500 acres of land in West Africa, but does not mention if this is legitimate or recognised by anyone who matters. (UN?) The statement about them having a "government in exile" makes it seem as if this is just a froup from America who have decided to call 500 acres of someone else's land THEIRS, without actually being there or validating their claim. The style departs from the encyclopaedic one that we would expect, being more POV; "Everyones true roots come from Africa anyway's, so no matter what color or religion you are, we are all cousins, whether you like it or not. ", in addition to stating that Adam and Eve are our population's founders. Since Adam and Eve appear to be part of the Christian/Judeo Christian tradition, I think that several billion people on the planet would disagree about their supposed role. This part of the article seems to be unsuccessfully trying to blend science and religious POV, and could be tidied up and maybe even have some verification.193.130.128.2 09:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC) Lance Tyrell
HMCM ???
editWhat does this mean? HM stands for Her/His Majesty but what's HMCM? Apparently, the only holders of this style were Anne of Austria and Marie de' Medici. 87.250.113.213 (talk) 14:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- "Her/His Most Catholic Majesty". It's not in WP (yet) but a quick google will confirm. --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
capitalisation
editA section on this would be useful. For example, should the H of Her always be a capital letter? --Rebroad (talk) 09:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
- Moved here from the talk page of Her Majesty, which is a disambiguation page. Schwede66 19:14, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Prosperity
editHow can I be connected to His Majesty Hassanai Bolkiah so as to become a prosperous man like him. Princeaibisam (talk) 21:01, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Is there such a thing as true love being two people married with loyalty than without paperwork. ? Obviously if that highest step is taken each should have the right to kill, if betrayed, which I don't see as a problem. Is this a fact that can be made accountable for or no ? Gabrielle Novak (talk) 02:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
That's the kind of love Ive been looking or waiting for. Gabrielle Novak (talk) 02:54, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
I guess that would be more of a team sport than betrayal. K never mind. Gabrielle Novak (talk) 03:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Take care .xo Gabrielle Novak (talk) 03:04, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
M
editHH is Majesties. A couple. King and queen
Obviously H is majestic. Singular
To answer . Gabrielle Novak (talk) 03:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
My hopes
editYour Royal Highness: recently at Balmoral I was so overwhelmed by the space and the immenseness of the Estate and the Balmoral building - that there is huge hope that the magic will be working again for you....❤️ 146.199.188.192 (talk) 19:00, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Adding a consort section
editthere is a section for monarchs, but should we not add a section for consorts as in most countries wives of Kings are HM too but not the monarch? Joddd334 (talk) 22:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)