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Deleted vandalism
editDeleted vandalism Neigerig 18:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Disney Channel Games
editDoes the merit mentioning? Several other shows have featured contestants playing for Make a Wish and lost as well. This seems more of an obscure trivia fact someone posted to feel important. Modor (talk) 18:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)Modor
New introduction needed
editThe current introduction was copied and pasted from the Make-a-Wish Foundation website. --n-k, 13:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
- I restored it to its state in December, which is less peacock. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 16:03, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Too much wrestling?
editThe History section has an awful lot about wrestling - two of the five paragraphs deal w/ wrestlers and wrestling-related wishes. Make-a-Wish doesn't specify that it specializes in any particular type of wish, so I don't see the relevance of focusing so heavily on this one particular sport. I'm going to delete it.Soojmagooj (talk) 16:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
If the page is expanded, should be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The dinks 18 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was moved. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:09, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Make-a-Wish Foundation → Make-A-Wish Foundation—This organization uses an upper case "A" in its name (see wish.org and guidelines posted on numerous regional Make-A-Wish Foundation websites stating that the "A" must always be capitalized). The Wikipedia article name did contain the capital "A" until it was moved on 27 July 2007, with the reason given as "naming conventions". However, lower case is not mandatory for proper nouns, as per both Wikipedia:Naming conventions (in the section titled Lowercase second and subsequent words in titles) and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization), which only mentions using the lower case "a" in "English titles of books, films, and other works". -- Zyxw (talk) 16:40, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
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- Support as per reasons outlined in my request. -- Zyxw (talk) 16:42, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- Support Proper noun.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 02:10, 30 August 2009 (UTC) - Oppose Surely this comes within the rules at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks), which states:"Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official""Skinsmoke (talk) 01:22, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- To me, WP:CAPS takes precedence over the MOS. It says to keep a proper noun all caps, and that's what we're supposed to do in English regardless, so that's the basis of my opinion above.
— V = I * R (talk to Ω) 10:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)- What about the rest of that quote? The full text is:-
- To me, WP:CAPS takes precedence over the MOS. It says to keep a proper noun all caps, and that's what we're supposed to do in English regardless, so that's the basis of my opinion above.
- Convention: For page titles, always use lowercase after the first word, and do not capitalize second and subsequent words, unless the title is a proper noun. For multiword page titles, one should leave the second and subsequent words in lowercase unless the title phrase is a proper noun that would always occur capitalized, even in the middle of a sentence.
- This convention often also applies within the article body, as there is usually no good reason to use capitals. Outside of Wikipedia, and within certain specific fields (such as medicine), the usage of all-capital terms may be a proper way to feature new or important items. However these cases are typically examples of buzzwords, which by capitalization are (improperly) given featured status.
- In general, each word in English titles of books, films, and other works takes an initial capital, except for articles ("a", "an", "the"), the word "to" as part of an infinitive, prepositions and coordinating conjunctions shorter than five letters (e.g., "on", "from", "and", "with"), unless they begin or end a title or subtitle. Examples: A New Kind of Science, Ghost in the Shell, To Be or Not to Be.
- Skinsmoke (talk) 15:48, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- In my opinion, that quote from WP:CAPS makes the case in favor of changing the title, not against it. The first paragraph says (not once, but twice): "unless the title is a proper noun". Isn't the name of an organization considered a proper noun? The third paragraph mentions using lowercase for articles ("a", "an", etc.), but specifically states it applies to: "English titles of books, films, and other works". So how does that apply to the name of an organization? -- Zyxw (talk) 00:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Discussion
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- Comment - Seeing an oppose based on Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks) (MOS:TM), I looked at the quoted guideline and found the examples given use all capital letters ("avoid: REALTOR®, TIME, KISS"). Unfortunately, MOS:TM doesn't give any examples of a trademark containing an article such a "A". Other somewhat relevant guidelines include "Capitalize trademarks, as with proper names." and "Trademarks in CamelCase are a judgment call. CamelCase may be used where it reflects general usage and makes the trademark more readable: OxyContin or Oxycontin—editor's choice." In my opinion, the quote from MOS:TM which applies best in this case is "Use common sense in applying it; it will have occasional exceptions." -- Zyxw (talk) 08:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
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looks weird
editThe first Canadian wish was granted in 1983. It was a wish for a girl named Debbie who wanted to visit her parents in Germany. She got to visit them in August 198+999.
Is that supposed to say 198+999 on the end? I have a feeling it's not, but since I have no idea what it's actually supposed to say, I'll leave it alone for now. 64.30.122.39 (talk) 20:28, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
UK?
editThere's been a UK Make-A-Wish Foundation for some time. Here's their website. Could someone who knows something about it (ie not me) please add some details? Also, it seems a bit misleading for the intro to specify only the USA, given that MAW now operates in (at least) three countries. Something like "originating in the USA" might be better, with the 501(c)(3) status - which obviously doesn't apply overseas - mentioned in a following sentence. Either that, or start a whole new article for the non-USA bits. 86.136.251.177 (talk) 15:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Expansion
editAs a major charity, this page needs more information on it! I'm adding some basic stuff, but it should be more than 1 page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The dinks 18 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Image discussion
editA user, Jasonkm, an editor with 6 edits, keeps changing the image in the article from the one with President Obama to the one with John Cena, both seen at right. I prefer the Obama one only because it's better quality, but I think both could be used in the article. I'm starting this discussion so we can come to a consensus. Discuss. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 14:23, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
Citations for criticisms
editThere is no citation for the criticism section so I added both a who tag and a cn tag. Though I personally don't think this, the criticisms section could be construed as potentially damaging to an existing organization's reputation and removable under WP:PROVEIT; however, being new to editing I didn't want to delete a whole section without warning. Ckrunch (talk) 13:50, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
removed advert tag
editI removed the advert tag from the page. WP:DETAG says tags may be removed if you do not see the issue in the article (I don't) and there is no detailed complaint on the talk page (there is no complaint whatsoever). Ckrunch (talk) 13:58, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
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Largest Personal Donation
editAdded citation needed tag to the last line of the process section regarding a supposed donation of 250 million dollars by a James W. Barclay, which was uncited and seemingly completely false. A 10 million dollar donation by Michael Jordan has been touted by the org as the largest personal donation they've ever received, which should be reflected in the article. The supposed 250 million donation is not supported by the org's financial statements, which makes it a strange thing for someone to claim on this article. https://wish.org/michael-jordan-gift 142.166.125.28 (talk) 18:32, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
A Proposal for a Merger
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- To not merge, given that the institutions are independent of one another; sourcing warrants improvement. Klbrain (talk) 22:45, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
I propose the merger of Make-A-Wish Foundation and Make-A-Wish Foundation UK pages in order to streamline information and provide a unified view of the organisation's global impact and operations. Given the significant overlap in mission, history, and the interconnected nature of their activities, a single comprehensive page could enhance readability and accessibility for a broad audience. This would also eliminate redundancy and concentrate resources, which makes it easier for readers to find relevant information. WorldClassChampion (talk) 21:40, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Good idea. After all, they're the same organizations but different countries. I, Morpeko, agree. Morpeko (talk) 02:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Make-A-Wish Foundation (America) is completely separated from Make-A-Wish International. Networks are not interconnected and just the overall branding is shared 208.115.146.155 (talk) 18:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Both articles are mostly sourced to the foundations themselves, so it would be good to concentrate the reliable sources. There might be too much having three separate "History" sections, though, but maybe there could be one for all three if they influenced each other. Mrfoogles (talk) 02:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, given that the activities and running of the two organizations seem to be distinct. I agree that the sourcing warrants improvement, but a merge isn't a solution to that problem. Klbrain (talk) 11:06, 19 September 2024 (UTC)