Talk:Malaysia Airlines

Copied from website

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can somebody please clean up this page?? User:Mike86

Messier than ever

Yamahaboy81, this article has been messier than ever! I understand you want to put everything in it, but its unstructured now. perhaps, some have to move to a different article (eg history). please do something

The travel classes section,i will complete as fast as i can since i had to go to university.However, after completion, i will shift it into a new article okay?and i will also redit the travel classes part. Marcusaffleck 15:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Fixed, corrected and reorganized. Thank you :-).

marcus, yea... thinking of separate article for in-flight services/product/etc (i.e travel classes, ife, etc.... in one separate article). thanks 4 ur contributions :-).

Basically, the Products and Services are in one new article, while IFE still remain in the original article because it is short. The travel classes are from MAS webpage and i've reedited it,if anyone wish to edit,feel free to,but hope it would be minor changes but nor major changes because any how,i've put quite sometime on it hehe Marcusaffleck 10:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• This whole article looks like a blatant advertisement. I would have no choice but to tag it for a cleanup, and what is up with the current event tag?!? -le petit vagabond 09:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Marcusafleck, I think the part u deleted have some encyclopedic information which i found it hard to get, because that tells how Malaysia Airlines becoming Malaysia Airlines (i.e. the custom, the logo etc).. please dont delete that.. by having that, if my friend asked me why malaysia airlines is called MAS, then we know why by reading that, for example.. thank you.. Zack2007 10:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

For me, it doesnt sound so much of advertisement, maybe a little bit of modifying of words and sentences can make it sound more neutral. I believe they are quite interesting and have insights and how MAS comes about. Please reconsider your view. THank you. Zack2007 10:37, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

• Ever since a few users have modified this page, it has become either messy, an advertisement (e.g. Malaysia Airlines Product and Services page. Do you know what Wikipedia is NOT?) or plain bad english. If I have the time (which I do not have much of these days), I would do some major modifications, but in the meantime, the entire page is really in a dire state. -le petit vagabond 03:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

• well, i personally do not know how u define messy!Mesey in sense that the article of information.Second,if you think this is an ad, why not just tag it as ad? Futher more, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and it's aim is to provide as much information as possible to th public such as their history. If you think these are no encyclopedic, try look at other international airlines such as SIA or Cathay,they do provide these information on their article.Why Malaysia Airlines can't? Never say that this article has bad english, if the article has bad english,why didn't you edit it immidiately?Why need to wait till today ?This article has been edited since months ago,why now only you voice out ur "opinion"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marcusaffleck (talk • contribs) 14 novembre 2006 à 18:51.
  • Seriously, judging from this comment you left behind, I really doubt you should edit anything on Wikipedia, let alone starting a new page. Maybe you are new here, but standard understood English is appreciated when addressing others. I see numerous grammatical and spelling errors, and some words I do not understand. As for the article, yes, it has been edited a few months ago, but by you? I doubt so. Since a month ago, there have been some really atrocious edits (maybe you should read up on how Wikipedia should be edited?), and the whole page has deteriorated to a level that is not even worth comparing to the Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific pages. Neither has an separate page on their products and services, and neither uses language that glorifies itself. Pray tell then, what is it in Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific that you want to add into Malaysia Airlines, but hesitated? As for voicing my opinion, as I mentioned earlier, I do not have the luxury of time. Some of us actually do something other than edit Wikipedia, and seriously, what I see here is an overzealous Malaysia Airlines lover that wants to use Wikipedia as a tool to push his/her agenda. -le petit vagabond 13:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
• Okay i tell U,i'm not marcusaffleck 60.50.197.93 14:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

le petit vagabond, I understand you see that this page is messy. But don't you think you are a bit harsh when saying that marcusaffleck should not try to edit or start a page. If you think by having a new page on product and services are not needed, then say so in that page, and with consensus, the page will be deleted. THere is no need to vent around implying that they cannot be a wikipedian. and with the bad language and sound advertisement, if it is indeed that way, then, contribute, delete whats not needed, help marcusafleck, because not everyone's view is the same. Share you view so that we all have a concensus. Personally, when reading the Malaysia Airlines page, I dont think I see much of the advertisement, all i see is information and history. Please tell us which parts that have bad language and blatant advertisement, and i'm sure we all will try to edit it. Alright?Zack2007 00:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

His language abilities does not put him in a position to do any serious editing, judging from the page he created, the comments he has made and edits to other pages; perhaps he is not a native speaker of English. As for the Malaysia Airlines page, it is much better now, thanks to a few other editors who stepped in to do some serious major revamp. Anyway, the new page on Malaysia Airline's product and services will be deleted soon; the consensus was that it is nothing more than a blatant advertisement. I trust that you know the difference between the two, and I was surprised that you chose to keep the page, when you should know what Wikipedia is not. And a final point about Marcusaffleck: Why did he remove the unsigned comment tag when it was him who left the comment? And we see next a comment from an IP address that he is not Marcusaffleck; this really speaks lengths on his integrity. -le petit vagabond 04:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I don't know what Marcusaffleck's English skill is like but then, he did add quite a lot of information together with Yamahaboy81, I guess there should be some gratification. But again, I can see how his usage of english is not appropriate in many places. And, i too dont understand what he is trying to say that it is not him that wrote the comment. Pftt whatever. About my previous choice to keep Malaysia airline's product and services is because, i think there is an encyclopedic information in it, but then now i realise these info are relatively little they can be incorporated in the main malaysia airlines article rather than creating a separate page. Sorry, my bad. :) Zack2007 04:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• • • • No offence taken, just needed to air some ideas around here. Am looking forward to work with you in the near future. -le petit vagabond 10:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Ewww...go ahead for the deletion,need not to comment so much Marcusaffleck 10:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

• • • • • le petit vagabond, i believe u have made a lot of complains on this page. u simply voiced but u never act, that's a lame! besides, Marcusaffleck and other users have been trying hard to clean up and embellish this page. if you have any comments or some parts u dont recognise or gratify, kindly leave us a message and plz remember to add your opinion about the parts that u wish to revamp. thanks mike86 1.48pm, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

• Do you realise how ironic your statement is? You said I have voiced out a lot of complaints, after which you blast me for not acting upon it. Next you ask me for more comments about parts that needs cleaning up? I do respect some of the editors around here, but as it is, there were a lot of mess in the past, but the situation looks much better now. By the way, the next time you want to leave a comment and uphold your capabilities as an editor, may I suggest that you check your comments for punctuation, grammar and spelling mistakes? Taking a glance at your statement above, I see numerous mistakes and I am starting to doubt your standard of english. -le petit vagabond 08:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

le petit vagabond, I see that you have once again, judge people from the way they write (ie. language). You have to understand that many of us (me included) is not a native english speaker. THerefore, our English is not so good and subtle mistakes in grammar, puctuation etc. can often be missed, even after being checked. Please forgive us for that, but you cannot judge our knowledge by merely how bad our language is. I am writing this because it intimidates me from contributing to wikipedia. Is that what you want me to do? I can see from ur user page that you have a bachelor degree of literature, unfortunately i dont like literature. So I am hoping by contributing, I can actually learn English by people correcting my mistake, not by someone judging how I write. I better go ...bye...

Zack2007 09:23, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

le petit vagabond, once again i want to clarify what ive said. your comments and your opinions on our edits are most welcomed but i think sometimes u have to watch your language while talking to us instead of commenting our language being used in this page. nobody is perfect and if u have found any grammar or vocab mistakes, fine, go ahead and correct them. as Zack2007 has said, we are not english native speakers. And PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT THIS DISCUSSION PAGE IS FOR USERS TO DISCUSS HOW TO EMBELLISH AND EDIT THE PAGE, NOT FOR USERS TO ARGUE. thanks. Mike86 19.42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

le petit vagabond,even tough you have a bachelor in literature does not mean that your language skills are good.Literature is a wide field,and some other contributors might got an master in aviation field or master in literature,therefore, never try to discriminate others' language ability.Futher more, this is a page for discussions,not for you to prove that your language ability is better than others Marcusaffleck 13:48, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

• Granted, I might have come across as a rather snobish Literature degree holder, but Wikipedia is an international portal, and it is important to minimise English barriers by not using colloquial language of one's country. This is the case I see in this page, which leaves me scratching my head in the things you write. I apologise if I intimidated anyone of you, after all, Wikipedia is a coming of all people with different ideas. Then again, why do some of you claim that you are a native speaker of English when it is rather obvious you are not? As for arguing here, I am not picking any argument here, but limits should be drawn on the useful editing of the page and using the page for one's agenda in the glorification of the company. Marcusaffleck, I do understand that you like Malaysia and all there is to it, but please read what Wikipedia is NOT before starting a new page or doing any editing. You might then start to think that one is not attacking your language abilities, but rather, the way you phrase some sentences. All the best. -le petit vagabond 14:26, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • wow, what're u guys fighting for? Anyhow, this article is really a mess. Someone should put subtopic stub for the history section. Another thing, for the corporate image, although it's organized, but not in the way that would attract other people to read the rest of the article. It's like a foot note of a college student. Try to expand it. And the fleet section is also a mess. I think we can create a new article for the MAS fleet. I mean, the table is beautiful (good job btw), but still messy. Try to explain in one or two paragraphs about the MAS fleet, like its current fleet, why MAS purchase the a/c, what happened to its former aircraft etc. I don't think the MAS airline template should be in every MAS related articles, like in the Malaysia Airlines Awards From 1998. It just make the article messy (and looks like an immature writings). I think, you can create a new template only for MAS related topics. Onboard or inflight entertainment? Which one is correct. I usually use inflight entertainment term. And you can expand this article by citing a little bit about the MAS 3000i, its recognition etc. If I'm not mistaken, MAS have a some sort of agreement with nintendo for the inflight entertainment (or is it Krisworld SIA?). But you guys did a great job on this article. Congratulations. Just keep improving it and listen criticism. Because, through criticism (although some of them are annoying like mine) you guys can be a good author. Hey, practice makes perfect.141.213.66.173 06:16, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Enrich Tiers

Hope someone can open a new article relating Enrich Tiers.I will create a link and can sumone put information in? Thanks Marcusaffleck 10:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

MAS Aerotechnologies

MAS Aerotech. is already changed to Engineering and Maintenance Div. It used to be a subsidiary of MAS. Previously, there were two division of MAS engineering, MAS Aerotech at Subang and MAS Engineering and Maintenance at KLIA. I think, because of the rationalization, which aim to cut cost, MAS Aerotech. co. is merged with E&M div., thus they share the same admin.141.213.66.173 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

MAS Academy

it's not a flight school. MAS never had their own flight school. I hope somebody will rectify the error in the entry —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssangyongs (talk • contribs) 08:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

MAS Codeshare Partners

hi, i found some ambiguities on Mas Codeshare Partners section. i cant find any articles saying that MAS will codeshare with Finnair for flight kul - helsinki. on top of that, i dont think MAS also codeshare with Iran Air and in fact MAS operated flight for Dragon Air on hkg - bki - kch sector.

In Flight Entertainment

Editors, please note that for Malaysia Airlines Select system,it should be called IFE,not on-board entertainment.On-board Entertainment can be many types including IFE systems.Marcusaffleck 03:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

History of MSA

(Please refer to, and respond at, talk:Singapore Airlines. Thanks.) — Instantnood 18:41, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ownership, management and financial turmoil

MAS is a good thesis for bad Government Linked Corporate management. In the articles, I see there is ambiguous tone about the ownership and management. In deed, all CEO from MAS are political appointed.

--Sltan 10:43, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Fleet Replacement Program

It was stated on the page that MAS plans to purchase wide body aircrafts, among them the new Boeing 747-8, Airbus A350XWB and additional orders for the A380. It was also mentioned that MAS has selected the Boeing 737-900ER to replace the 737-400. While it is known that MAS is issuing RFPs for new aircrafts, I could not find any sources to confirm the aircraft type. Is there any source that could verify this? 76.49.194.153 13:03, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, unless source is provided, the infomation will not be added into. However,i;m glad to hear that MAS is replacing their fleet. Marcusaffleck 13:04, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Completely unfounded. RFPs have been issued for replacement of the 737's. No decision has been made between the A320 and 737. Further, I have found no source that RFPs have been issued for purchase of any widebody aircraft. They Have publicly stated they plan to purchase 110 planes for fleet renewal, No mention of RFP or possible candidates was made. All a pipe dream.

There are plans to replace their wide bodied aircrafts as stated in Malaysian's newspapers.Marcusaffleck 07:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia

Calling all Malaysian Wikipedians around the world!! It is high time for us to start our own WikiProject for Malaysia..any one can create/assiting me to create WikiProject Malaysia.Marcusaffleck 11:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Codeshare Partners

This is the list of Malaysia Airlines codeshare partners. Malaysia Airlines codeshare partners number is MH 9000 - MH 9999. Go to KLIA at Sepang to find out.

• Air India
• Air Mauritius
• Alitalia
• All Nippon Airways
• Asiana Airlines
• Bmi (airline)
• Cathay Pacific
• Dragonair
• Garuda Indonesia
• Gulf Air
• KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
• Korean Air

• Myanmar Airways International
• Philippine Airlines
• Qatar Airways
• Royal Brunei Airlines
• Silk Air
• Singapore Airlines
• South African Airways
• SriLankan Airlines
• Swiss International Air Lines
• Thai Airways International
• Transaero Airlines
• Uzbekistan Airways
• Virgin Blue

Flight numbers

This is a list of Malaysia Airlines flight numbers. Malaysia Airlines flight numbers are allocated according to geographical regions. In general, even-numbered flight numbers are outbound from Malaysia. Go check at Malaysia Airlines at 'Destinations'. Look at flight numbers.

• MH 0001-MH 0049 : Europe
• MH 0050-MH 0089 : East Asia
• MH 0090-MH 0099 : North America
• MH 0100-MH 0149 : Oceania
• MH 0150-MH 0199 : Middle East and South Asia
• MH 0200-MH 0299 : Africa and South America
• MH 0300-MH 0399 : East Asia
• MH 0600-MH 0699 : Singapore
• MH 0700-MH 0999 : Southeast Asia
• MH 1000-MH 1999 : Domestic : Peninsular Malaysia from every domestics airports
• MH 2000-MH 2999 : Domestic : East Malaysia from every domestics airports
• MH 3000-MH 3999 : MASWings
• MH 5000-MH 5999 : Training pilot and maintenaice flights
• MH 6000-MH 6999 : MASKargo
• MH 7000-MH 7999 : Middle East
• MH 8000-MH 8999 : Chartered & Hajj flights
• MH 9000-MH 9999 : International codeshares (Another airlines with Malaysia Airlines flight numbers)

Enrich merged into this article

I have merged Enrich into the main MAS article. There was no assertion of notability on that articles, all sources were primary sources, and it clearly was a violation of WP:NOT#TRAVEL and not advertising. The tendency is to merge FFP into main articles, AA, BA, UA, etc all having these in the main article. It is either that or put the articles up for deletion, where they likely would have little chance for survival on their own. --Russavia 10:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Corporate Information

I think it should be reverted back to the orignal version. Jannisri 06:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Article Revamp

The MH page is due to be revamp and more information should be added in. Jannisri (talk) 12:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

A380 ?

Does relay MAL gets delivery of the A380 i April 2011 is it not in 2012 ? EWR" 08:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the deliveries will be in 2012. 161.130.178.17 (talk) 04:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

New First and Business Class

I thought the new First and Business Classes were introduced in 2004? 161.130.178.17 (talk) 04:52, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Edits by Malaysian Airlines marketing department

Some edits are clearly done by the marketing department of Malaysia Airlines. What should we do about it?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleepyhead81 (talk • contribs)

If there's nothing terribly wrong with the information that's being added, I don't think we have to do anything. It's rare to see a marketing department leave information about unprofitability and fatal accidents. My reading of the edits is that they aren't overly promotional. CMD (talk) 08:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

I disagree. Much of the wording were promotional. I removed some as you can see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysia_Airlines&diff=484658696&oldid=484280305 --Sleepyhead (talk) 15:04, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I readded a couple of sections you removed. How an organisation/company presents itself is useful information. However, obviously if you see promotional wording, it should be reworded. CMD (talk) 12:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

MH logo

The logo used in the wiki page is the old logo. The all blue already been scrapped and replaced with the new red-blue logo. You may refer to MH website for the new logo design. Hope someone can change it since I am not good in inserting picture into wiki page. Thanks. Rahimiraduan (talk) 09:54, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

That have a plane missing now.

I just read on several news sites they have a plane missing. Malaysia Airlines has “lost contact” with a Beijing-bound plane carrying 239 people. In a statement, the airline said flight MH370 departed Kuala Lumpur just at 12:41 a.m. (local time) on March 8. The plane was expected to land in Beijing approximately six hours later. The airline said authorities have activated their search-and-rescue team in an effort to locate the plane. The airline said 227 passengers and 12 crew members are onboard the B777-200 aircraft. 98.240.76.78 (talk) 01:14, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for posting the update. Info on MH370 is here: http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html - http://www.webcitation.org/6NuT37dZp WhisperToMe (talk) 02:20, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Fleet

Should the fleet number be changed as 9M-MRO crashed [1] Maodi xn (talk) 05:31, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia vs Malaysian

The airline is referred to as either Malaysia Airlines or Malaysian Airlines. Their website says Malaysia Airlines. Is it ok to change all references to Malaysia Airlines? Their official business name is Malaysian Airline System Berhad, while their trading name is Malaysia Airlines. Therefore unless referring to the full business name, the name should appear as Malaysia Airlines. Merxa (talk) 00:20, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Anywhere in particular in the article as I cant see any use of Malaysian accept in context of the business name or previous names. MilborneOne (talk) 18:35, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Malaysian 370

MH370 has its own article we have no need to repeat anything here and the entry in accident and incidents is fine, just keep it simple. MilborneOne (talk) 19:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

MAS flew New York to Dubai

• Rahman, Saifur. "MAS to resume Dubai-New York flight" (Archive). Gulf News. May 12, 2002.

This is proof that MAS flew New York to Dubai. At the time it was the only "direct" flight between the UAE and the USA. I don't know where the info will go WhisperToMe (talk) 03:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Fleet

Please do not add MH17 to the fleet section, aircraft accidents are listed in the appropriate section or if like recent events in the history narrative but not in the fleet section, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 09:36, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree with MilborneOne here.--220 of ^Borg 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Missile?

As likely as it seems that Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was brought down by a missile, this is still to be officially confirmed. That page's infobox still says:

"Summary

Suspected of having been shot down by a Buk surface-to-air missile; exact cause is still under investigation"

Here at Malaysia Airlines#2014 aircraft losses it also says;

"Flight 17 crashed ... after it was believed to have been hit with a surface-to-air missile."

For this reason on 4 occasions now I have reverted or altered edits here in the Accidents and incidents section adding assertions that this is an established fact. Saying "believed hit by a missile", as we do here, is about as far as I feel we can go.--220 of ^Borg 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree keep it simple, it has a related article that goes into all the detail we dont need to have any more than the basic fact. MilborneOne (talk) 11:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom sanctions?

The 'Malaysia Airlines Flight 17' page currently has a notice on it saying:

”The Arbitration Committee has permitted Wikipedia administrators to impose discretionary sanctions on any editor editing this page or associated pages.”

So it sounds like it applies a here too, as a related page.--220 of ^Borg 10:56, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Dont have a problem with the notice although it should be clear it relates to edits about "Eastern Europe". MilborneOne (talk) 11:30, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

The question who shot it down and where the weapon came from is not relevant here, since it doesn't make a major difference for Malaysia Airlines or their reputation and ticket sales. So that doesn't really apply here. CorrectKissinTime (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Why overfly

I have removed and challenged the statement about Malaysian flying over "potentially dangerous" warzone, it appears to indicate that Malaysian is to blame for the accident which evidence so far doesnt indicate it was. We cant list every accusation against the airline. MilborneOne (talk) 14:03, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

OK it appears rather than discuss the challenged addition User:Got Milked wants to edit war. They really need to come here and gain a consensus for the addition. MilborneOne (talk) 14:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

That edit, here, does seem to me a bit out of place on this page, if anywhere it should be detailed on the MH 370 page.--220 of ^Borg 16:13, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

A380 Milestones

The sub-section seems to be located in the wrong place. IMHO, aircraft-related stuff fits better within the "Fleet" section. That said, I don't think this is of encyclopedic value, mostly considering that there's not even a single source supporting the content.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

MH Gourmet

I noticed that MH is offering this program, so I archived the following:

• http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/experience/inflight-meal/mhgourmet.html - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ra8qcfYi
• http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/inflightmeal/menu_mhgourmet.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ra8xFJhN
• http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/inflightmeal/MH%20Gourmet%20%20Cakes.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6Ra8v7jRX

I know US Airways started something similar, but has anybody written about the cake program? That sounds unique. Maybe a news outlet or aviation magazine has written something? WhisperToMe (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Can the Malaysia Airlines website be cited for this? --Jamang1999 (talk) 04:49, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

I see no problem with that, only we do need a secondary source in addition to those sources - TheChampionMan1234 05:16, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Headquarters in KL sold?

The source next to this statemnet:The airline headquarters building in downtown Kuala Lumpur was sold. The new corporate headquarters is now at the MAS Complex on the grounds of Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport in Subang, Selan is about something totally unrelated, and I could not find any source, except wikpedia mirrors and other sites that just copy Wikipedia, should we just remove that or what? --- TheChampionMan1234 05:36, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Update I have removed that statement for now, until a reliable source is found, let's not add it again - TheChampionMan1234 05:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

The source states: "Head of Recruitment, Human Capital Division 2nd Floor, Admin Building 4 MAS Complex B Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport 47200 Subang Selangor Darul Ehsan" but it doesn't say Bangunan MAS was sold. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:28, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Source found: This one by the Star WhisperToMe (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Unsourced claim about a "flight 76" accident

A recent edit introduced an unsourced claim about a fatal accident involving a Boeing 777 in 1994. This contradicts the Boeing_777 article, which states the first fatal accident on that plane was in 2013, and the Boeing 777 wasn't even in service in 1994. I cannot find any source for this claim.

Bishop2067 (talk) 11:30, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

I can find no information about a "Malaysia Airlines Flight 76" on the web and the 777 article is correct...the first fatal accident was in 2013. AHeneen (talk) 18:03, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Probably vandalism - removed. MilborneOne (talk) 18:20, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Flight 370 and Flight 17 on leads

There are three section that include such topic. Don't you think its too much of information on both accident? One paragraph on the leads, one details subsection and of course on Accidents&Incidents section. I would like to propose the deletion of a paragraph on the leads for being redundant and excessive. Such section should, as like other airlines, include brief introduction only. Tafeax (talk) 09:02, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree that a paragraph is too long. However, WP:Lead requires the lead to summarize the entire article (some facts are in the infobox) and these incidents are included because they're a notable part of the airline's history (the last three paragraphs of the lead) and the last paragraph concerns all incidents. I've trimmed the paragraph to just 1 sentence about the flights. AHeneen (talk) 22:59, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Ownership and parent company

Please note that according to the references attached alongwith the changes, the ownership (in the manner of shareholding) of MAS is with Khazanah Nasional Bhd., the holding company for the sovereign wealth fund of the Govt. of Malaysia. Penerbangan Malaysia Bhd. is a SPV meant for buy-and-leaseback of all aircraft and other capital goods to be used by Malaysia Airlines System (MAS), and is neither a holding company, nor the nominal owner of MAS.

Both MAS and PMB are subsidiaries owned either completely or substantially by KNB.
PrimusUrbisIndis 06:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

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History split

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Seems to be a reasonable suggestion. MilborneOne (talk) 18:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

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I have removed this from Category:Airline templates as that category is for templates, not articles. Dunarc (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

History section is too long(Request)

If it is possible for someone to create a subsection of the history section as the default one is too long.

Here's a temporary placeholder i've created.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Malaysia_Airlines&redirect=no Jahurz93 (talk) 12:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jahurz93, regarding your split, it appears you have copied it to the Wikipedia namespace (Wikipedia:History of Malaysia Airlines), which is not what that namespace is for. It is meant to be a draft? I feel you could host it where you have put the redirect. Best, CMD (talk) 12:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Discussion: Similarities Between Flight MH2664 and MH124 Incidents

This discussion seeks to explore whether the information regarding Flight MH2664 should be restored to the article. Given the observed similarities with other incidents and the potential relevance of the data, it's crucial to consider community consensus on the matter. د بڠساون (talk) 01:11, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

It is unnotable, it simply does not meet any of the requirements of WP:AIRCRASH.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 11:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Jetstreamer. I've noticed that MH2664 was deleted from the incidents section while MH124 remains. Given that MH2664's incident is more severe than MH124's, I'm interested in understanding the reasoning behind this discrepancy د بڠساون (talk) 12:47, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

It just shouldn't be there. Removed.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 01:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Malaysia Airlines Codeshare with MASWings

Should MASWings be removed from the Codeshare agreements list? They dont Codeshare with each other because MASWings's flight code is also MH, therefore MASWings uses the same flight code as Malaysia Airlines, the MH website for Codeshare agreements also dont show MASWings there, Qantas has a subsidiary named QantasLink, which also shares the QF code with its subsidiary, and therefore, on the article Qantas#Codeshare agreements, it does not show QantasLink there, so I think MASWings should be removed since it's a similar case Metrosfan (talk) 10:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Good catch. Removed.--Jetstreamer ^Talk 13:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)