Talk:Malcolm Dixon (actor)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... He is an actor with 8 credited roles and other uncredited roles when he worked for Jim Henson. So, why is there such bloodthirst to delete this article before it can be written? --209.149.113.5 (talk) 12:40, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Because he does not meet our notability guidelines – WP:NACTOR and WP:BASIC. In any case, I don't think your contesting of this deletion is valid – the criteria for WP:G4 criteria is very specific: what you need to show is that this version isn't substantively identical to the version that was previously deleted... However, even if the speedy deletion is declined, that does not affect the WP:PROD that is already ongoing. And this article will surely be taken to WP:AfD if the PROD doesn't go through. It's time to let this one go – it's sure to be deleted one way or the other. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:01, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

The deleted article is about a different person. And you cannot be required to prove something they cannot possibly see. Only us administrators can see deleted versions to make the comparison. The process should have been you adding the Proposed deletion (PROD) after speedy deletion (SPEEDY) was declined. Anyone can remove the PROD and it cannot be re-added (unlike an author removing a speedy which must be re-added). If the PROD is remove someone could take it to Articles for Deletion (AfD) but it will be debated there and it is not a foregone conclusion what the result will be. Rmhermen (talk) 13:31, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

@Rmhermen: I added neither the CSD nor the PROD. I'm just commenting... And, I am confident that this would be deleted at AfD – there seems little doubt. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:38, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

I give up. I was collecting his theater work, television work, and interviews and I was then told that no matter how much I did, the article is destined to be deleted anyway. So, why not just delete it. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Look at WP:NACTOR and see if you can get enough information and reliable sources to meet what it says there. Another option is to create this article in as Draft:Malcolm Dixon (actor) if it does get deleted (likely will be moved there anyway if deleted) and follow the process for review of draft articles. The draft space is the location for work in progress and if and when it meets notability requirement articles crated there will moved to article space after submission for review. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Birth date

The 1953 birthdate currently assigned to him is very unlikely to say the least - judging by photos of him in Time Bandits, he is clearly not in his '20s. His first screen credit is in a 1966 version of Snow White, playing Sleepy - seems unlikely if he was only 12 at the time (also noting that his fellow dwarfs in that production included Kenny Baker and Jack Purvis, who were born in the '30s). This 2004 article [1] actually discusses his career PRIOR to his acting career (which included working on a farm and for the civil service) before being discovered '40 years ago' (this was presumably circa 1964), which would indicate he was born a lot earlier than 1953. As it is this date is unsourced so I shall remove until we have something reliable. Crisso (talk) 23:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, after having done a bit of my own original research (via the BMD - assuming the information about him being born in County Durham is correct) I believe I have found his birth and marriage records, which indicate he was born in 1934:

• https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=hwljDQEiGB1ERX0uXMZefQ&scan=1
• https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=KzE8Q3JtVd5PdAkS0M0IfA&scan=1

Of course we need some reliable secondary sources to confirm this so we can include it in the article. Crisso (talk) 23:05, 12 April 2020 (UTC)