Talk:Malta exiles

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By no means an expert, but seems a glaring omission to have left out the fact that some of the "exiles" were imprisoned at Malta in conjunction with the Armenian Genocide. Also, there is little detail here regarding said suspects' subsequent release by British Authorities. Would like to know more. Makes me question the objectivity of such a sensitive topic. Anyone out there an authority on the subject -- someone who might be able to respectably contribute?Austincconsidine 05:51, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

They were held as much because of crimes committed against British soldiers as crimes committed against Armenians. Nor were they in a real sense prisoners. They were allowed to move relatively freely about, and on Sept 6th 1921 sixteen of them actually escaped from the island because they were so loosly guarded, others had escaped prior to that. The last of the prisoners were released in exchange for British citizens held captive by Kemalist forces. Much of the problem with this entry is that its content is derived from nationalistic Turkish sources. Dadrian covers these events in reasonable detail in chapter 17 of his "The History of the Armenian Genocide". Meowy 23:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

So the Armenian Dadrian must be a reliable source? I've also read a lot of his unscientific attitude in this matter.Chonanh (talk) 04:56, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Prisoners

Main reason of the roundups.

Legend

Turkish national movement

Outpost

Council of Kars

Ottoman Empire

The occupation of the people.

in absence

Military

Goverment

Civilian

1	Name	Roundup Date	Roundup ID	Function in the Ottoman Empire	Aftermath
2	Ali İhsan Sabis Pasha	29 Mart 1919	26 67	eski 6. Ordu komutanı	Eylül 1921'de dönmüş (veya firar etmiş), Büyük Taarruz öncesine kadar Kurtuluş Savaşı'nda yer almıştır.
3	İbrahim Ahmet	29 Mart 1919	26 68	Ali İhsan Pasha'nın emir onbaşısı, tutuklanan komutanından ayrılmamış, gönüllü sürgüne gitmiştir
4	Mustafa Kemal Pasha	May 28 1919		Ordu Komutanı
5	Abdülgani Bey	May 28 1919	26 95	Yarbay
6	Ahmet Bey	May 28 1919	27 24	eski Sivas Governor
7	Ahmet Cevat Bey	May 28 1919	27 24	albay, İstanbul mevki kumandanı
8	Ahmet Haydar Bey	May 28 1919	27 08	binbaşı
9	Ahmet Muammer Bey	May 28 1919	27 19	eski Konya Governor
10	Ahmet Nesimi Bey	May 28 1919	27 19	eski Hariciye Nazırı
11	Ahmet Tevfik Bey	May 28 1919	26 80	albay
12	Ali Fethi Okyar	May 28 1919	26 80	eski Dahiliye Nazırı, Sofya sefiri
13	Atıf Bey	May 28 1919	27 02	Ankara mebusu
14	Celal Pasha	May 28 1919	26 76	Albay
15	Cemal Efendi	May 28 1919	26 94	Yüzbaşı
16	Faik Bey	May 28 1919	27 37	eski Merzifon kaymakamı
17	Fazıl Berki Tümtürk	May 28 1919	26 98	eski Çankırı mebusu
18	Ferit Bey	May 28 1919	27 03	Committee of Union and Progress katibi
19	Gani Bey	May 28 1919	27 23	İttihatçı
20	Habip Bey	May 28 1919	26 85	Bolu mebusu
21	Hacı Ahmet Pasha	May 28 1919	27 39	Enver Pasha'nın babası
22	Doktor Halil Bey	May 28 1919	26 99	Yüzbaşı
23	Hasan Fehmi Bey	May 28 1919	26 88	Sinop mebusu
24	Ürgüplü Mustafa Hayri Efendi	May 28 1919	27 34	Seyhülislam
25	Hazım Bey	May 28 1919	26 78	Binbaşı
26	Hilmi Bey	May 28 1919	27 89	Kırklareli Mutasarrıfı
27	Hoca Rıfat Efendi	May 28 1919	27 06	Committee of Union and Progress temsilcisi
28	Hüseyin Cahit Yalçın	May 28 1919	26 75	İstanbul mebusu, Journalist
29	Hüseyin Kadri Bey	May 28 1919	27 05	Karesi mebusu
30	İbrahim Bedrettin Bey	May 28 1919	27 01	Diyarbakır Governor
31	İbrahim Hakkı Bey	May 28 1919	27 10	binbaşı
32	İsmail Canbulat Bey	May 28 1919	26 92	eski Dahiliye Nazırı
33	Kemal Bey	May 28 1919	Unknown	Unknown
34	Macit Bey	May 28 1919	27 04	Divan-ı Muhasebat Memuru
35	Mazlum Bey	May 28 1919	27 07	Binbaşı
36	Mehmet Sabit Bey	May 28 1919	26 86	eski Sivas Governor
37	Sabri Toprak	May 28 1919	27 29	Saruhan Mebusu	Tarım Bakanı (1925-1927)
38	Mehmet Tevfik Bey	May 28 1919	26 79	Yarbay, Kaymakam
39	Memduh Bey	May 28 1919	27 33	eski Musul Governor
40	Mithat Sükrü Bey	May 28 1919	26 93	Committee of Union and Progress Üyesi
41	Mustafa Asım bey	May 28 1919	27 11	eski Of Mutasarrıfı
42	Mümtaz Bey	May 28 1919	26 97	Emekli Yarbay
43	Nevzat Bey	May 28 1919	26 96	Yüzbaşı
44	Ömer Bey	May 28 1919	26 81	Binbaşı
45	Evrenoszade Rahmi Arslan	May 28 1919	26 91	eski İzmir Governor
46	Rıza Hamit Bey	May 28 1919	27 40	Bursa Mebusu
47	Saip İbrahim Pirzade	May 28 1919	27 35	Sura-ı Devlet Reisi, Nazır
48	Salah Cimcoz Bey	May 28 1919	27 28	İstanbul Mebusu
49	Sami Bey	May 28 1919	27 09	Albay
50	Doktor Süleyman Numan Pasha	May 28 1919	27 32	Ordu Sıhhiye Müfettişi
51	Süleyman Sudi Bey	May 28 1919	27 30	Tokat Mebusu, Lazistan mebusu olarak da görünmektedir.
52	Serafettin Efendi	May 28 1919	26 77	Yüzbaşı
53	Sükrü Kaya	May 28 1919	27 38	Mülkiye Müfettişi
54	Tahir Cevdet Bey	May 28 1919	26 90	eski Ankara Governor
55	Tevfik Hadi Bey	May 28 1919	26 82	Siyasi Polis Müdürü
56	Mehmet Ubeydullah Hatipoğlu	May 28 1919	27 31	İzmir Mebusu
57	Veli Necdet Bey	May 28 1919	26 87	Dahiliye Nazırlığı Müstesharı
58	Yusuf Ziya Bey	May 28 1919	26 84	Emekli Binbaşı, Committee of Union and Progress Üyesi
59	Zekeriya Zihni Bey	May 28 1919	27 18	eski Edirne Governor
60	Aziz Cihangiroğlu	June 2 1919		Kars Surası üyesi, Adalet Bakanı
61	Alibeyzade Mehmet Bey	June 2 1919	27 16	Kars Surası Üyesi, Kars Sivil Governor
62	Hasan Han Cihangiroğlu	June 2 1919		Kars Surası üyesi, Savunma Bakanı
63	İbrahim Cihangiroğlu	June 2 1919	27 17	Kars Surası üyesi, Sura Başkanı
64	Mehmetoğlu Muhlis Bey	June 2 1919	27 27	Kars Surası Üyesi, PTT Genel Müdürü
65	Matroi Radjinski	June 2 1919	27 25	Kars Surası Rus Üyesi
66	Musa Salah Bey	June 2 1919	27 20	Kars Surası Üyesi, Polis Müdürü
67	Pavlo Camızev	June 2 1919	27 14	Kars Surası Rum Üyesi
68	Tauchitgin Memlejeff	June 2 1919	27 22	Kars Surası Üyesi, Emniyet Müdürü
69	Stefani Vafiades	June 2 1919	27 26	Kars Surası Rum Üyesi, Sosyal Yardım Bakanı
70	Yusufoğlu Yusuf Bey	June 2 1919	27 21	Kars Surası Üyesi, Gıda Bakanı
71	Abbas Halim Pasha	September 21 1919	27 54	Prens, Eski Nafia Nazırı, Bursa Governor, Sadrazam Sait Halim Pasha’nın kardeşi.	Malta'dan sonra İstanbul’a, sonra da Mısır’a gitti
72	Ahmet Ağaoğlu	September 21 1919	27 64	Afyonkarahisar mebusu, Darülfünün hocası, yazar
73	Ali Münif Bey	September 21 1919	27 62	eski Nafia Nazırı
74	Hacı Adil Bey	September 21 1919	27 57	mebus
75	Halil Menteşe	September 21 1919	27 60	Committee of Union and Progress üyesi
76	Hüseyin Tosun Bey	September 21 1919	27 65	Milli Telgraf Ajansı sahibi ve müdürü
77	Kara Kemal Bey	September 21 1919	27 61	eski İaşe Nazırı
78	Mahmut Kamil Pasha	September 21 1919	27 58	eski 5. Ordu Komutanı
79	Mithat Sükrü Bleda Bey	September 21 1919	27 56	eski Maarif Nazırı, Burdur Mebusu, Committee of Union and Progress Genel Sekreteri
80	Said Halim Pasha	September 21 1919	27 55
81	Ziya Gökalp	September 21 1919	27 59	Ergani-Maden Mebusu, Darülfünün hocası
82	Mehmet Arif Bey	January 28 1920		Binbaşı
83	Nuri Bitlisi	January 28 1920		Çavuş
84	Faik Kaltakkıran	March 22 1920	27 80
85	Ahmet Sevket Bey	March 22 1920	27 80	İstanbul Müstahkem Mevki Komutanı
86	Mehmet Cemal Mersinli Pasha	March 22 1920	27 72
87	Çürüksulu Mahmut Pasha	March 22 1920	27 71
88	Hasan Tahsin Uzer	March 22 1920	27 71	eski Sam ve Erzurum Governor
89	Hüseyin Rauf Orbay	March 22 1920	27 76	eski Bahriye Nazırı, Sivas mebusu
90	İsmail Cevat Çobanlı Pasha	March 22 1920	27 73
91	Mehmet Esat Işık Pasha	March 22 1920	27 75	Hekim
92	Mehmet Seref Aykut Bey	March 22 1920	27 79
93	Mustafa Vasıf Karakol (Kara Vasıf)	March 22 1920	27 78
94	Köstenceli Numan Usta	March 22 1920	27 81	Zeytinburnu Fabrikasında Ustabaşı
95	Ahmet Emin Yalman	27 Mart 1920	27 87	Journalist
96	Ali Çetinkaya	27 Mart 1920	27 87	eski Afyon mebusu
97	Ali Sait Pasha	27 Mart 1920	27 82
98	Ali Seyyit Bey	27 Mart 1920	27 94
99	Celal Nuri İleri	27 Mart 1920	27 85
100	Ebüzziyazade Velit Pasha	27 Mart 1920	27 83
101	Enis Avni (Aka Gündüz)	27 Mart 1920	27 91
102	Hilmi Abdülkadir	27 Mart 1920	27 89
103	İslam Ali	27 Mart 1920	27 86
104	Mehmet Eczacıbaşı	27 Mart 1920	27 90	Eczacı, Sakir Eczacıbaşı'nın babası
105	Mehmet Muammer Bey	27 Mart 1920	27 88
106	Rafet Pasha (?)	27 Mart 1920	27 92
107	Süleyman Nazif	27 Mart 1920	27 84	eski Musul ve Bağdat Governor
108	Acenta Mustafa Kırzade	20 Mayıs 1920	27 86	Tacir
109	Doktor Abdüsselami Pasha	20 Mayıs 1920		Emekli general, eski Yemen komutanı
110	Mehmet Kamil Bey	20 Mayıs 1920		Musullu Journalist
111	Hacı Ahmet Bey	31 Mayıs 1920		Sivas Committee of Union and Progress Delegesi
112	Mustafa Reshat Bey	31 Mayıs 1920		İstanbul Siyasi Polis Müdürü
113	Agah Bey	June 7 1920	27 86
114	Basri Bey	June 7 1920		yarbay, Cevat Pasha'nın damadı
115	Mustafa Abdülhalik Renda	June 7 1920		eski Bitlis Governor
116	Ali Cenani	June 13 1920		eski Halep ve Antep mebusu
117	Andavallı Mehmet Ağa	June 13 1920
118	Murat Bey	June 13 1920
119	Süleyman Faik Pasha	June 13 1920
120	Yakup Sevki Subası	June 13 1920		eski 9. Ordu Komutanı
121	Ali Nazmi Bey	August 6 1920
122	Hoca İlyas Sami Muş	August 19 1920		Muş mebusu
123	Mehmet Atıf Bey	August 19 1920
124	Mehmet Nazım Bey	August 19 1920
125	Süleyman Necmi Bey	August 19 1920
126	Sefer Bey	12 Eylül 1920
127	Burhanettin Hakkı Bey	20 Eylül 1920
128	Mehmet Nuri Bey	20 Eylül 1920
129	Mehmet Rıfat Bey	20 Eylül 1920
130	Cemal Oğuz Bey	5 Ekim 1920
131	Mehmet Ali Bey	5 Ekim 1920
132	Ahmet Sükrü Bey		27 63	eski Maarif Nazırı, mebusu
133	Cevat Bey			İstanbul mevki kumandanı
134	Eşref Sencer Kuşçubaşı			Teşkilat-ı Mahsusa
135	İsmail Müştak Mayokan			Yazar, Milletvekili
136	Kazım Bey			Albay, Enver Pasha’nın kayınbiraderi
137	Mürsel Bakü			Tümgeneral, Milletvekili	İzmir’e giren Süvari Komutanı.
138	Sabit Bey			eski Sivas Governor
139	Sükrü Bey	eski Maarif Nazırı
140	Galatalı Sevki Bey			Miralay, Malta’ya sürgüne gönderilinceye kadar Outpost örgütünün başı
141	Yunus Nadi Abalıoğlu	Journalist, Yeni Gün gazetesi sahibi		valign="top" align="right" style="background:Pink" |

For Outpost, isn't it better to use the original Turkish term, Karakol? Such as Karakol Society...It's easily pronouncable internationally? Cretanforever 18:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was merge into Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals -- AmericanAir88 (talk) 02:01, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Should we have Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals merged into this article? I think we should because the topic is practically the same, and the info found in both articles are nearly identical. Étienne Dolet (talk) 00:01, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

• Merge - This article's topic is too narrow. --92slim (talk) 16:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I also agree with the merge, but suggest the reverse direction, given that Effort to prosecute Ottoman war criminals is the broader topic and already has a relevant section covering the prosecutions in Malta. As the lede of the Malta exiles article also attests, the term seems to predominantly Turkish. Klbrain (talk) 15:36, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Reactivate page

I'll make an effort to re-create the page. In 2010, the page was mach larger, but had significant parts in Turkish which I now will adapt into English. I have created some articles for members if the Malta Exiles and I anyway though I'd create such an article until I found out a redirect already exists.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Sourcing Issues

I'm not a regular contributor to Wikipedia, just doing some research on the Malta Deportees/Exiles recently and I was wondering if there might by an issue with the main source used, that of Bilal N. Simsir's. The only reason I mention it is that the essay he writes on the matter seems to be a clear attempt to deny/minimise the existence of the Armenian Genocide, which might make it a poor source to use? Sorry if I'm completely wrong lol PandaWiki8 (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)