Talk:Mammamia (Måneskin song)

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:44, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will get on with this article today! --K. Peake 07:44, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• I think c. 24–25 May 2021 would be more appropriate as merely May 2021 in the infobox
• The recording year is not sourced; only writing is mentioned as having happened in 2021

  Removed; I added it, since it's just logical.

• The capitalisation stylization is not sourced

  I've never seen in any article reference supporting how the song is stylised. Neither in "ARTPOP" nor in "willow". But I can add release ref here if it is so neccessary.

  I have written this out in the body for you using that ref, re-wording some nearby content in the process. --K. Peake 07:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• The composed/production/writing and comp/lyrics are out of order; the first three should be in a sentence before release and the second two should be the sentence after release
• "by the group's frontman" → "by the band's frontman"
• "the lyrics depicts a person" → "the lyrics depict a person"
• "to the group's previous single," → "to Måneskin's previous single,"
• "within the top ten of" → "within the top 10 of" per MOS:NUM
• "and has been certified gold in Italy." → "and has been certified platinum in Italy by the Federazione Industria Musicale Italiana (FIMI)." with the wikilink
• "Rei Nadal-directed music video premiered" → "An accompanying Rei Nadal-directed music video premiered" with the wikilink
• "is seen driving back from" → "is seen coming back from"
• "The single has been performed by band on" → "The song has been performed by Måneskin on"

Y All done (in some cases slightly modified, but still). infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Background and release

• "Big Artists" is not sourced as being the award name anywhere

  In the following week, I'll find a better source. Took this one from "Zitti e buoni" article where it refers to the same information, so...

• "The band has won" → "Two months later, the band won" to be specific
• "frontman, Damiano David, has been" → "frontman Damiano David had been"
• "the band felt inspired and happy, and few days later" → "Måneskin felt inspired and happy, and a few days later"
• "touched on how they were misunderstood and" → "touched on being misunderstood and"
• "Måneskin members has been spotted" → "Måneskin members had been spotted"
• "On September 30, 2021, the band announced release of" → "On 30 September 2021, the band announced the release of"
• "wearing "Mammamia" belt." → "wearing a "Mammamia" belt."
• "while on their Instagram," → "while on their Twitter," with the wikilink, per the source
• ""Why so hot?"." → ""Why so hot?"" per MOS:QUOTE
• "On 7 October, the band hosted" → "On 7 October 2021, Måneskin hosted"
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on Berlin
• "was officially available for" → "was officially made available for" but are these formats really mentioned by the foreign language ref?

  From what I remember yes, but I'll ask my Italian friend to confirm it to me.

• "and mainstream radios." → "and mainstream radio formats."
• "On 19 November, a 12-inch vinyl was" → "On 19 November 2021, a 12-inch vinyl was" with the pipe
• Pipe B-side to A-side and B-side

Y All done, besides noted. Plus, there is one important feature that I forgotten about to add to this section (about listening parties), I'll (try to) add it next week. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Music and lyrics

• "has pop rock mix and," → "has a pop rock mix and," per that not being the meaning of mix here
• "pointed out that it resembles the group's" → "pointed out the resemblance to Måneskin's"
• Pipe drums to Drum kit
• "the rhythm accelerates further."" → "the rhythm accelerates further"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "however it was kept in the song" → "though was kept in the song"
• "The band's frontman also claimed that it" → "David also stated that the line"
• "far from that."" → "far from that"."
• "of drug usage allegations towards the group" → "to drug usage allegations towards Måneskin"

Y All done. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Reception

• Any thematic order for the content of the reviews?

  To be honest, I added subsequent reviews whenever I found one. Might re-edit it in the next week.

• "In an article published of" → "In an article published by" and add staff after DIY
• "he was keen of it, since he said that it is" → "he complimented it as"
• "In TgCom24 article," → "In an article by TgCom24 staff,"
• "with self-irony."" → "with self-irony"." per MOS:QUOTE
• "irresisible catchy melody."" → "irresistible catchy melody"."
• "for selling over 100 thousand copies." → "for selling over 100,000 copies in Italy."

Y All done, besides noted. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Music video

• Retitle to Music video and promotion, merging with the below section

  I'll think of it next week; might add more info.

• "during the song's bridge is" → "as the song's bridge is" on the img text
• "shared by the group on their" → "shared via their" but this is not sourced

  It is sourced by Pure Charts ref.

• ""Mammamia" music video premiered" → "the music video for "Mammamia" premiered" with the wikilink
• "containg epilepsy warning has been directed by a Spanish director" → "containing an epilepsy warning was directed by Spanish director"
• "during comeback from the party," → "while coming back from the party,"
• "about killing the group's frontman," → "about killing David,"
• ""[David] is fucking" → ""[David is] so fucking" per the source
• "to the group's drummer's, Ethan Torchio, fantasy," → "to the drummer Ethan Torchio's fantasy,"
• "is de Angelis one," → "is de Angelis' one,"
• The kitchen knife part is unsourced
• "The band's guitarist's, Thomas Raggi, fantasy" → "Måneskin guitarist Thomas Raggi's fantasy"
• Wikilink electric guitar
• "is seen in a bloody imagery," → "is seen in bloody imagery," with the wikilink
• Where is the tape sourced as being a cassette?

Y All done, except noted. Also, not reffed sentences (knife, cassette) will be reffed properly or removed next week. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Live performances

• Make this the third para of the above section
• "the group debuted on the US late night television," → "Måneskin debuted on US late night television,"
• Pipe "Beggin'" to Beggin' (Måneskin song) per MOS:LINK2SECT
• "on the Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon." → "on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon."
• "on 2021 MTV Europe Music Awards." → "at the 2021 MTV Europe Music Awards, where they won" mentioning the award that is sourced
• "that the group played" → "that Måneskin played"

Track listing

• Good

Credits and personnel

• Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is the right space between credits and personnel

Charts

• Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard) → Japan Hot Overseas (Billboard Japan) with the wikilink

Y Done. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Certifications

• Good

Release history

• The various citation only backs up digital download and streaming in the US
• Shouldn't the 12-inch release be listed as a vinyl one? Either way, pipe to Twelve-inch single.

Will touch on that next week. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

References

• Copyvio score looks alright at 39.8%
• Last name should always come before first on citations for consistency

  I'm not sure where is such issue. I always try to add right names to |first= and |last=, so can you point out where I missed it, please?

  Ref 2, but I noted this as soon as I saw it incase the issue appeared further on before looking again. --K. Peake 07:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Cite Genius as publisher instead on ref 5 and pipe to Genius (company)
• Pipe HotPress to Hot Press on ref 7
• Corriere Della Sera → Corriere della Sera on ref 10 with the wikilink
• Cite Sky TG24 as publisher instead on ref 11
• Cite TGCom24 as publisher instead on ref 15
• Cite 4fun.tv as publisher instead on ref 20
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 25
• Pipe Billboard to Billboard (magazine) on ref 27
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 28
• Cite Radio Eska as publisher instead on ref 29
• Cite Radio ZET as publisher instead on ref 30
• iHeart Radio → iHeartRadio on ref 33, citing as publisher instead with the wikilink
• WP:OVERLINK of la Repubblica on ref 34
• Remove pipe on Billboard for refs 36 and 46
• WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 62 and fix date mis-formatting
• Remove the publisher from ref 63

Y All done, besides noted. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

External links

• Why is the lyric video not mentioned anywhere in prose?

No refs found - but I'll look for them next week. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• A mention of the lyric video in promotion does not require excessive information; you could just add the release date and use the video as a ref. --K. Peake 07:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; this didn't take too long! --K. Peake 10:07, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Hi Kyle Peake! Nice to work with you again! Now I've fixed most of the issues you pointed out here, besides those noted ones. I'll try to work on the article more next week, since there are some missing important informations (listening parties, lyric video), and then I'll also try to eliminate last remaining issues. infsai (talkie? UwU) 07:00, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Infsai Thanks for the response and I understand that you need to look into certain issues, though the music video and promotion section can be created now since all that needs to be done for that is to merge the live performances with the above section. --K. Peake 07:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake Yep, I'm aware that merging to sections is just few clicks away, but I need to think about certain things. Like I said, I'll try to cover the remaining issues in the next week-presumably on Tuesday/Wendsday, since then I won't be working. infsai (talkie? UwU) 08:07, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

• Infsai It has been two weeks now, any further updates on this? --K. Peake 09:17, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake Yes. Sorry that it takes me so long to update the article, but unfortunetly recently I don't have much time to spend on computer + my phone broke, so there is simply no way for me for now to do any outlandish edits for at least next two weeks. I'm sorry that I couldn't keep up with the promise and I kept you waiting.~I guess we can just redraw nomination, and I will re-nominate the article on a later date, when I'll add everything I wanted. infsai (talkie? UwU) 05:26, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• Infsai About withdrawing the nomination, it depends if you will be able to fix all of these suggestions once you have a properly working device and I can keep on hold until then if so? --K. Peake 07:56, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• Kyle Peake Of course, my intention is to finish this article properly, but simply I'm not sure in what time of August I'd have a proper device. infsai (talkie? UwU) 08:18, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

• Infsai Any updates on this by the end of August now? --K. Peake 07:25, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

• Hey Kyle Peake, I guess I'm giving up for now with this one. I thought that after one month without laptop I'll be motivated enough to finish this article, but I simply do not for now. Sorry that it went like this, but I need to refresh a little. infsai (talkie? UwU) 18:50, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

• ✗ Fail now, per the nominator's comments. --K. Peake 07:50, 30 August 2022 (UTC)