Talk:Man's best friend
Latest comment: 1 month ago by MrAcurite in topic Friedrich der Grosse/Frederick the Great Citations
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Requested move 28 November 2019
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The result of the move request was: Moved, disambiguation page is now at Man's best friend (disambiguation) as suggested — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:01, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
– Per WP:DIFFCAPS / only usage of this term that is in lowercase. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 16:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. – bradv🍁 04:54, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - unlike the situations for when the only usage has a specific capitalization and editors argue that a reader writing that specific way can only mean they are searching for that title, the same cannot be said for all lowercase. That's just how people search. This helps no one other than you for some reason (and it's a bit annoying that I'll need to copy/paste my same argument to all nominations now). --Gonnym (talk) 23:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support this one. I don't think there's any question that the idiom is the primary topic. The association of dogs and humans has been close and important for tens of thousands of years. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 17:09, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom although the other uses of the upper case do get a comparable number of views (3,465) than the phrase (4,986) [[1]] it seems reasonable especially by PT#2 to land readers here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 14:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose, just because the idiom is so widely known, does not mean it's much more likely to be sought. The page views suggest it isn't. --В²C ☎ 23:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
- Support first move. Move second one to Man's best friend (disambiguation). The phrase is clearly the primary topic. Interstellarity (talk) 16:17, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- Support proposal of Interstellarity. Hyperbolick (talk) 20:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
- Support both per WP:DIFFCAPS the idiom page, and WP:DABNAME:
"The spelling that reflects the majority of items on the page is preferred to less common alternatives"
for the disambiguation page. -- Netoholic @ 19:12, 9 December 2019 (UTC)- I agree with that rather than Interstellarity but it doesn't matter that much since there is also 1 other lower case entry but that is to dog and "dog" is linked on Man's best friend (phrase) anyway. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:29, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Support per above comments. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:49, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Support, clearly the primary topic. Cavalryman (talk) 13:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC).
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Friedrich der Grosse/Frederick the Great Citations
editI went through the citation associated with Friedrich der Grosse having said "a dog is a man's best friend" (https://books.googleusercontent.com/books/content?req=AKW5QaeTWoFJvm8-QhNguSp0W__DxTb8zz0km2AnRYlVFCdU8PEFHaiSqRGxgVsja51rP-WmHugffZRWWG5sEW2KDalHgryBuxMFvmXCpwaPbRyI1zRj3v58KQAWvzbRr39ZNVG43W6xzhUQGGVBMiZuYarZEthnStr6G8-5UyDkvbfuUFdKaPd89FnOfy0-2igUskgYkTdU3iDSSs7ojBZU8APkWgGdpcN1VFPk1aS7MimwOE0QBbvsiBTfbX3g55N-ARrZMrLmhfSftgZsKRCnOTcQVtfi4pu6GT5afs_bG6ViR9mDHxY), and I can't actually find the quote anywhere. Just a statement about him liking his greyhounds, feeding his dogs small amounts of chocolate, and breaking one's back with a cane. MrAcurite (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- "Frederick was very fond of dogs, and had always half a dozen Italian greyhounds about him: In his cabinet you saw on every side little leather balls for them to play with, and when they were ill, he directed that they should be well taken care of. In his first campaigns he always took one with him. One day that he had advanced too near the enemy, he fell in with a party of their hussars, and was obliged to hide himself under a bridge, where nobody could perceive him : his only apprehension was lest Biche, his little bitch, might bark at the noise of the horses and discover him. But Biche, as if sensible of her master's situation, squatted down by him without making the least noise. In a few minutes afterwards the king met with general Rothenbourg, and presented Biche to him as his best friend. At the battle of Soor, Biche was taken with the king's baggage, and general Nadaſti gave her to his lady, who was very unwilling to resign her. When Biche returned, the king was busy writing in his chamber. Rothenbourg let her in gently, but she immediately jumped upon the table, and put her fore feet round the king's neck. The king was so affected as to shed tears. A monument is erected to Biche in the garden of Sans - Souci, and the king kept about him to his death the numerous posterity of this faithful companion."
- Page 521. He calls a specific dog his best friend, but does not seem to make the statement in general terms. MrAcurite (talk) 13:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, I completely skipped reading "Frederick referred to one of his Italian Greyhounds as his best friend." as part of the article. I may be an idiot. MrAcurite (talk) 13:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)