Talk:Man overboard
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MOB Guardian
editThe article says that there are no MOB systems on market, however in the U.K., the RNLI does provide MOB Guardian, a system that alerts authorities in case of a man overboard incident. http://rnli.org.uk/what_we_do/sea_and_beach_safety/fishing_safety/mob/mob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.197.195.3 (talk) 18:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Other systems also available in UK and worldwide - including Seasafe Man Overboard and Lost Diver Alarm - http://www.seasafe-europe.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sea Safe Europe (talk • contribs) 08:25, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Woman overboard
editIs it worth mentioning what happens when a woman goes overboard? - Richard Cavell (talk) 01:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- According to the article, the same thing, since everything in the article other than the title itself refers to what to do to recover the "person". Mind you, I wish we could change the title, since it's offensive, but we're stuck using what reliable sources use. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- My understanding is that it's "Man overboard" if any person goes overboard, whether male or female, adult or child. But I'm not an old salt. I think the article should be explicit about it. I think we've reached a point where it's remarkable to use the word 'man' to refer to women as well. ("Chairperson" was once quite awkward but now it's standard English). - Richard Cavell (talk) 03:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- I’ve edited the lede to clarify this, and I hope it’s acceptable:
… should shout "man overboard" ("man" here meaning "person") to alert …
- I’ve edited the lede to clarify this, and I hope it’s acceptable:
- My understanding is that it's "Man overboard" if any person goes overboard, whether male or female, adult or child. But I'm not an old salt. I think the article should be explicit about it. I think we've reached a point where it's remarkable to use the word 'man' to refer to women as well. ("Chairperson" was once quite awkward but now it's standard English). - Richard Cavell (talk) 03:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Surely you are kidding that it is offensive Qwyrxian? saying man in this situation is a generic term much like mankind...--203.59.161.97 (talk) 23:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Such editing is not persmisssible on Wikipedia. It is intended as nothing more than to start inappropriate political strife. The mariner coventions use the term "man" and therefore that is the way it should be used here until as such time the international convention changes, which probably won't be for a long time. 24.182.207.10 (talk) 01:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Terminology
editTerms such as deep beam reach are pretty obscure to non-mariners. Perhaps someone with some sailing knowledge could add explanations or links for some of the jargon?
"How to"
editI just tagged this article with the "how to" template to indicate that it reads like an instruction guide or manual. What the article needs is much more content related to the historical development of the expression "Man overboard" and its use in the Age of Sail. Particular mention might be made of instances when the call was deliberately ignored, as it was aboard the Cutty Sark on at least one occasion when the crewmember so lost was considered "expensive" to retain and so was abandoned, despite the call. It isn't the purpose of Wikipedia to tell us what to do when someone calls "Man overboard", but to cover the use of the expression and its development and implementation (in English, at any rate). KDS4444 (talk) 08:31, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Disagree. I would find that this article meets an exception to the general rule of policy, in that it does not read as a "how to", but rather is information pertaining to what might be considered a "universal distress signal". Therefore, what your saying would be like saying that explaining the notation of S.O.S. would be a "how to" when in fact it is no such thing. 24.182.207.10 (talk) 01:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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