Talk:Manitoba Moose

Jets-Canucks conflict

I'm curious to know what the feelings of Winnipegers who were Jets fans in terms of supporting a Canucks minor league team. Does that make a difference to anyone up there? 67.46.0.13 06:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Official logo

What is the official logo of the Moose? I can't find instances of the full background and "Manitoba Moose" text. All I see is the isolated moosehead version ( like at ahl.com ) or the older cartoony logo. I skimmed through the news archives at theahl.com but didn't see a press release. I'm guessing this was announced sometime last summer. ccwaters 02:06, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Division title clarification

Oh, I see what our anonymous friend is trying to do. The Moose won the *divisional bracket* in the 2004–05 playoffs.

1) The AHL playoff format is ever changing, and these so-called *division finals* can dissappear as quickly as they came. I'd imagine if and when the AHL finally gets to 30 teams, there will be 6 divisions and a playoff format similar to the NHL.

2) Any team that boasts about a divisional playoff title is really just saying "we lost in the conference final". Will Manitoba be hanging a banner in the rafters for this?

Any input from the crowd? I'm tempted to get rid of the division title listings and just document league titles (regular and playoffs). The AHL and IHL both have had periods where there no divisions or conferences. ccwaters 13:22, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Media

I'm listing local papers as a resource for wiki users to who wish to find current news coverage of the AHL teams. From what I gather, the Winnipeg Free Press is the main paper in town, but online articles are available to paid subscribers only. That renders that outlet useless for the purposes here. Thus the media conglomerate publication that is the Winnipeg Sun, wins by default. If anyone objects, just voice your feelings here and I won't stand in the way of including the Free Press. Related: If there was an alternative to the Hamilton Spectator I'd list it at Hamilton Bulldogs. ccwaters 14:25, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Colors

I changed the order of the colors and 'brown' to 'bronze' as the primary jersey is black. The third color is called bronze according to the official site. See: http://www.albanyriverrats.com/news/?id=7264

Ownership

I note that someone has changed the majority owner to Mark Chipman. That is incorrect. He is - a - owner, but the majority owner is Kevin MacLean of the United States. --68.179.16.113 (talk) 13:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I notice there have been many changes in the ownership. I have removed it entirely. I want someone to provide an accurate source. Flibirigit (talk) 20:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

True North Sports and Entertainment is the owner of the Manitoba Moose. I have revised the article and provided a reference to my source.

The information at http://www.msc.gov.mb.ca/legal_docs/orders/truenorth.html will further explain that Mark Chipman owns all shares of Manitoba Moose Limited Partnership. It is my understanding that Kevin Maclean has divested all interest in the Moose franchise and is not involved in any capacity. http://www.minnesotahockeyjournal.com/facts_archive4.html JoeCanadian140 (talk) 01:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Ownership of the Moose was acquired by True North from the original partnership in 2003 in order to consolidate the operations of the team with the new arena. The best reference I can find is on the MTS Centre website. http://www.mtscentre.ca/arena/index.php rkehler3 (rkehler3) 2:55, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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Potential Move to NHL

Okay, so not exactly set in stone but the early indications are that if the Atlanta Thrashers move to Winnipeg, they would become the Manitoba Moose. How would the articles be re-named/moved around. Move this article to Manitoba Moose (AHL) or have the new moose called Manitoba Moose (NHL). Obviously the current AHL Moose would move as well but there should be a historical article rather than just re-naming/moving it. For example the Atlanta Flames still have their article and weren't just moved to Calgary Flames.

My thoughts are move this article to Manitoba Moose (AHL). Make a new Manitoba Moose page for the NHL team and a new AHL page for whatever this franchise becomes. One95 (talk) 23:18, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Well the AHL incarnation of the Moose will be moved and re-named, therefore this article would be redirected to the new team's title and in the page it would be noted the history of the team. This is all if the NHL team is named the Manitoba Moose, if they are not then this would all be a moot point.Weatherman05071 (talk) 20:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Our practice in the hockey project is to give each new incarnation of a team a new article. If TNSE called the new NHL team the Manitoba Moose, what would happen is that this would be moved to Manitoba Moose (1996–2011), then the current Winnipeg NHL team article would be moved to this title. Manitoba Moose (AHL) is not practical as the team began as an IHL squad. And, of course, current links and categories dedicated to the AHL team would have to be updated to match the new titles. Resolute 20:55, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

What is going to happen now that the team is being relocated to St. Johns? Does this get redirected to that page, or will that team get it's own page with a mention that their lineage is the Moose?Weatherman05071 (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Page has already started, St. John's AHL team. Newfoundlander&Labradorian (talk) 14:03, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yup. For the teams that have been relocated out of this (Atlanta Thrashers, Manitoba Moose and Chilliwack Bruins), their existing articles will be made historical, with notes that the franchises have relocated. The new articles at placeholder titles (St. Johns, Winnipeg and Victoria) will all be moved to permanent titles once names are chosen, and will note their franchise origins. Resolute 14:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Manitoba Moose (1996-2011) & Manitoba Moose, would be a problem, as they appear to be of the same league. GoodDay (talk) 14:30, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

The heading of this discussion is misleading. This franchise is not moving up to the NHL. GoodDay (talk) 14:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Franchise History section

I have no idea why the years aren't showing up next to St. John's. Maybe someone better versed in code could fix it for me? -- MichiganCharms (talk) 17:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

AHL approval

Has the AHL Board of Governors approved the re-location to St. John's? GoodDay (talk) 17:19, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes. --MichiganCharms (talk) 17:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

A read the source & it doesn't mention the BoG vote, nor its result. GoodDay (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

When I listened to the press conference they said in their press conference that the BoG approved the move. Unfortunately I don't have a source at the moment but it shouldn't be hard to find one considering how many sources are out there saying the AHL has approved the move. The sources don't need to specifically mention the BoG approved it because the BoG is the AHL. -DJSasso (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

No probs, the source has been updated. GoodDay (talk) 19:11, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

New Winnipeg AHL Team

There has been discussion on the new Winnipeg AHL Team talk page about regarding the to Winnipeg. While it is widely assumed the team will reclaim the Manitoba Moose name, it has not been made official by the team's owner. Until then, the Moose are still officially a defunct team. Once or if the announcement is made that the team will be made the Moose, that article will be merged with this one.Rkehler3 (talk) 03:44, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Merger proposal

It has been suggested that Manitoba Moose (2015–) be merged into this page. Proposed since May 2015.

They are both the same franchise, and the new iteration is resuming its past iteration's identity. As such, I feel that this one article should be about both, with the Manitoba Moose (2015–) article redirecting here or deleted entirely. Tom Danson (talk) 16:40, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Merge discussion already going on at the other page. -DJSasso (talk) 16:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

But the guidelines say that such discussion should mainly take place on this, the proposed target page. Tom Danson (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, they should be merged as it's the same franchise. GoodDay (talk) 17:22, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I agree with the merger proposal. It will be confusing to have two Manitoba Moose Wikipedia pages, and considering the same organization (True North) will be running the resurrected Manitoba Moose franchise, it would make more sense to just add an addition on the original article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WpgJets4Life (talk • contribs) 17:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I Strongly agree with this merger proposal. Mark Chipman, Chairman of True North Sports & Entertainment has owned this team for the entire time the Moose was in Manitoba to begin with. The Jets are simply bringing the same Moose franchise they moved to St. John's in 2011 back home to Winnipeg. Furthermore, the new Moose page should just be deleted like the page never existed. Welcome back Manitoba Moose! Salisbury Steak (complaint dept. - contribs) 02:38, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, please merge the two.Dr. Pizza (talk) 18:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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