Talk:Mara (demon)
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The Cakkavatti Sutta
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editIn the Chakravartin sutra it is said, according to translation by Thanissaro Bhikkhu:
“ | Monks, I don't envision any other single strength so hard to overcome as this: the strength of Mara. 3 And the adopting of skillful qualities is what causes this merit to increase. 4 [1] | ” |
from Cakkavatti Sutta [2]
- ^ Translator's note:4. This is the refrain repeated with each stage in the account of how human life will improve in the aftermath of the sword-interval. Here, "merit" seems to have the meaning it has in Iti 22: "Don't be afraid of acts of merit." This is another way of saying what is blissful, desirable, pleasing, endearing, charming — i.e., acts of merit."
- ^ Cakkavatti Sutta The Wheel-turning Emperor (excerpt) Translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu
quotation from the glossary: "Mara [maara]: The personification of evil and temptation." -- 83.236.99.63 (talk) 13:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Some of the ancient nuns -Sister Soma- about Mara
edit- http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn05/sn05.002.bodh.html - Soma, Translated from the Pali by Bhikkhu Bodhi
- http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn05/sn05.002.than.html - Sister Soma, Translated from the Pali by Thanissaro Bhikkhu
- http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn05/sn05.002.olen.html - Mara Meets His Match, Translated from the Pali by Andrew Olendzki
The verse(s) should be inserted: how best? -- 83.236.99.253 (talk) 15:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Meaning of "mara"?
editDoes anyone know the etymology of the word "mara"? Does it have a meaning besides naming the devil figure of Buddhism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.15.114.27 (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
- Turner, R. L. (Ralph Lilley), Sir. A comparative dictionary of Indo-Aryan languages. London: Oxford University Press, 1962-1966, mará 9867 mará m. ʻ *death ʼ --Pawyilee (talk) 15:49, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- If Buddhism prevails truth, Mara (God of suffering) exists. And he is pursuing people who Ecapable of liberation and thoughts of all the beings in the world . It is said that he was capable of examine the Lord Buddha's mind before his approach to the convention.S.B.M. Summon 09:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Three Daughters
editDuring the fifth week, while meditating under a banyan tree, three most charming girls called Tanha, Rati and Raga came to disturb his meditation. They danced in a most seductive and charming manner and did everything to tempt the Buddha to watch their dance. Yet he continued to meditate unperturbed, and soon they tired and left him alone.
- Three daughters represents the three characteristics of a charming female.JanStovicek (talk) 11:59, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Nang Thorani
editPhra Mae Thorani or Nang Thorani fending off Mara should be added to this article; and Mara, to hers. Google Books, returns these references:
- Images of the gods : Khmer mythology in Cambodia, Thailand and Laos
- Buddhist sculpture of Northern Thailand
- Monks and magic : an analysis of religious ceremonies in central Thailand
- Making merit, making art: a Thai temple in Wimbledon
- Spirits of the place : Buddhism and Lao religious culture
- Diogenes, Issues 173-176
- Thai Goddesses : Dewi Shri, Nang Kwak, Phra Mae Thorani
- The Buddhist world of Southeast Asia
- Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology, Volume 4
- Studies in Hindu and Buddhist art
- If anyone other than Lord Buddha could prevails on Mara's confrontation, there shouldn't needed to have taught of Dharma, Mara is a Demon capable of annoy anyone in the Sakwala(the solar system). According to Bodhi wansa no one had stayed near Lord Buddha when evil approached.
The woman introduces here should be the woman personifies the land earth (Parvati,Terra (mythology),Gaia (mythology)) or Mother goddess223.224.16.1 (talk) 16:05, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Mer or Mara
editIs also a Pashto word, it means to die. Can this be added in? Akmal94 (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
No only buddhism related conventions are needed to be addedS.B.M. Summon 17:24, 22 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sankumaraya (talk • contribs)
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Death
editBuddhism calls this aspect Mara and I feel its real meaning is lost in this article. Mara is Ego, and also death. From an Enlightened or Christ-mind perspective, when an individual creates an Ego it is the death of the real "I" or self and the birth of a personality (subject/object), therefore death is 'correct' but there is more. When we refer to ourselves as object (think to ourselves about ourselves), we create ourselves from memory (Ego). This self is subject to change based on these contents, but my own perspective is individual based on my individual knowledge, therefore my life my own illusion. That is the spiritual death described by 'all' faiths.109.149.217.4 (talk) 19:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
- Mara is not ego and Buddhism has nothing to do with "Christ-mind". Talk pages are not a forum for original thought. Dharmalion76 (talk) 13:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Colin M (talk) 21:45, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
– The mythological demon is the primary topic with significantly more pageviews than other topics. While the film Mara (film) also has a high amount of pageviews, it is clearly named after the mythological demon, which is further evidence that the demon is the primary topic. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 12:38, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - page views show an obvious case of a no primary. --Gonnym (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Can you explain that a bit more, Gonnym? I just noticed Mara (demon) has 16,000 page views, whereas Mara (film) has only 9,000.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- [1] - the film has over 14k. The 2k difference is not enough for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. --Gonnym (talk) 13:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- The film is named after the demon. That's evidence the demon is the primary topic.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 10:40, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Regardless of the outcome, some of the popular culture titles should wikilink to Mara (demon) to show where their characters are derived from.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. No clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:21, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose. No WP:PTOPIC. The DAB page got 1,864 views in the last 30 days, showing that the vast majority of readers are getting to where they want to be using the search box. Narky Blert (talk) 13:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
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