Talk:Marcel Gleffe

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it has interwiki to German and Norwegian.

There are more references about his actions under gunfire, including

http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/24/nyheter/innenriks/terror/utoya/anders_behring_breivik/17436710/</ref>, Norway.--Høvel (talk) 09:41, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

An awful tragedy, it was, but one event doesn't make him notable. Has he appeared in reliable news sources prior the one event? -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 09:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

A third user has previously voiced the notability of the subject: "Seems notable enough to me, given the number of sources and the fact that he was awarded the Verdienstkreuz 1. Klasse. ... Calistemon (talk) 14:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Høvel (talk • contribs)

The matter seems to be closed for now. (Because, in the article there is no longer any notification of proposed deletion.)--155.55.60.112 (talk) 10:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I know; I removed it, as I felt that it was notable enough. Thank you, -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 10:46, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Notability

I don' think there's much doubt about his notability. His actions were reported all over the world. Below are references to some of the media reports about him in various countries. He was also awarded several honours, including the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany Officers Cross (i.e. the third level, not just the simple medal), a German national award, given to him personally by the President of Germany.

"People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards: . . .

1. The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times."

Though a foreign national, he was one of three people to share the honour of being named "Norwegian of the Year" by the Norwegian magazine (Ny Tid). :Reference: http://www.nytid.no/perspektiver/artikler/20111215/derfor-er-de-_arets-nordmenn_/ "Kåring ... ved Utvika den 22. juli, som hørte skuddene på Utøya, og som med fare for sitt eget liv var den første på pletten med båt for å redde AUF-ere som svømte fra døden og for livet. Gleffe har inntil nå fått fire priser i sitt fødeland, også fra Tysklands president, men ingen pris i det landet han bosatte seg i og der han reddet over 20 unge menneskeliv."</ref> --Boson (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Sources

These sources from around the world should be sufficient to verify notability, and they may be useful for expanding the article:

• http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15434757,00.html
• http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8658437/Norway-shooting-German-tourist-hailed-a-hero-after-saving-30-lives.html
• http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018479/Norway-massacre-Marcel-Gleffe-saved-20-teenagers-Anders-Behring-Breivik.html
• http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/25/norway-massacre-families-of-children-missing-from-terror-island-pray-their-loved-ones-are-alive-115875-23295123/
• http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,776287,00.html
• http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43880728/ns/world_news-europe/t/german-tourist-rescued-teens-during-norwegian-island-massacre/
• http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/30/world/europe/30oslo.html
• http://www.smh.com.au/world/roofer-hailed-a-hero-after-norway-island-rescue-20110726-1hxq5.html
• http://gimundo.com/news/article/hero-bystander-marcel-gleffe-saves-lives-in-utoya-massacre/
• http://digitaljournal.com/article/309531
• http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/07/25/german-tourist-may-have-saved-up-to-30-from-gunfire-on-the-island-of-utoeya/#more-81101
• http://bingen.eins.de/articles/914671-beck-preistrger-marcel-gleffe-in-wiesbaden-breivik-muss-in-die-hlle
• http://oneclick.indiatimes.com/photo/03RXcM29ky3Lg
• http://www.norwaynews.com/en/~view.php?72Xb854YQ4483aw285Qlm844XP3885WN76JGn253P7t8
• http://www.lhrtimes.com/2011/07/25/marcel-gleffe-german-man-saved-20-youngsters-at-utoya-island-in-norway/
• http://www.focus.de/politik/ausland/terror-in-norwegen/marcel-gleffe-held-von-utoya-wird-erneut-zum-lebensretter_aid_674515.html
• http://www.heute.de/ZDFheute/inhalt/4/0,3672,8302820,00.html
• http://www.ndr.de/regional/mecklenburg-vorpommern/bundesverdienstorden105.html
• http://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/kriminalitaet/marcel-gleffe-der-deutsche-retter-von-ut-ya-11108080.html
• http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/norwegen-massaker/ich-bin-held-einer-tragoedie-geworden-20276324.bild.html
• http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/0,1518,776265,00.html
• http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/norge/1.7917427 (Norwegian of the year, Ny Tid)
• http://www.thelocal.no/page/view/trio-share-norwegian-of-the-year-award
• http://www.dagbladet.no/tag/marcel_gleffe
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZBfjuu0RmQ

--Boson (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Linking to the article about Gleffe

In the article, 2011_Norway_attacks#Rescue_and_emergency_response, Marcel Gleffe is mentioned, but his name is not linked to the article about him.

Ought something to be done about that? (IP-editors such as myself, can not edit that article.) --155.55.60.112 (talk) 10:33, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

 Done -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 10:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

How many minutes did his rescue operation last

Are there any links that say what time he started his boat ride from Utvika camping, and what time he stopped?--Riambrid (talk) 10:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

"The first" or "one of the first"

In another article (link [1]) he is mentioned as "One of the first person to arrive on the scene".

Are there any references that say that he was the first?--Riambrid (talk) 10:31, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of this article, for being created by a convicted sockpuppet

Link to a discussion about the possibility of this article being deleted without going thru an AfD dissussion, because this article was started by a convicted sockpuppet,

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Germany&oldid=487801911#The_irregular_deletion_of_articles_relating_to_both_Germany_and_Norway --Flowerwall (talk) 08:37, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

I have opened a new case against user Firewall at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sju hav. __meco (talk) 09:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Medal?

I don't get this line: Gleffe has until now received 4 citations of merit in his nation of birth, also from the president of Germany, but no citations of merit in the nation where he resides — and where he saved over 20 lives. According to Dagens Nyheter he recieved a medal from the Norwegian government: http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/utoyas-hjaltar-far-medalj — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.224.104.22 (talk) 21:33, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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