Talk:Marguerite Young (journalist)

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Created --Aboudaqn (talk) 05:38, 26 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

Alger Hiss

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In the lead to Marguerite Young (journalist) you seem to imply that Alger Hiss recruited someone to be a member of CPUSA. This smells like !@#$%^&*. I'd like to see documentation. I've read a lot about Hiss. Never even seen this. I intend to delete the offending clause ASAP if there's not reply. Without regards Tapered (talk) 05:25, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Tapered (talk): Challenge welcomed and accepted -- on page 161 of her own memoir, Nothing but the Truth, Marguerite Young states that she met Alger Hiss. If you read and/or search through this entry, you will see that the detailed footnotes demonstrate this and other facts asserted in this entry. --Aboudaqn (talk) 13:57, 29 April 2019 (UTC)Reply
Guess again. That she met Hiss doesn't seen worth disputing. Her word that she saw Hiss attempting to recruit for CPUSA only merits mention to the effect that she stated this assertion. It doesn't belong in the lead, in any event as it stands now, in any event. For the record, I have a tangential connection to the Hiss family, but would never allow that veer from the guidelines here. That info doesn't belong in the lead, again. Tapered (talk) 05:57, 2 May 2019 (UTC)Reply

over-reliance on memoirs, and possible original research

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@Aboudaqn:: This article has an inordinate amount of block quote excerpts of Young's memoir, over-citation of the memoir (WP:NPOV), and what appears to be original research and original synthesis, i.e. inferring statements not explicitly stated in sources. Lengthy verbatim dialogue, especially regarding the Alger Hiss case, is unencyclopedic (it might have a place in a book length biography, but not a concise encyclopedia), and its relevance is dubious: secondary sources that discuss Young and Hiss should be used to assess proper weight and prominence to give various aspects. Statements throughout the article like "appears to be", "presumably" and "judging by the dates of her articles..." strongly resemble original research and personal opinions. Nothing should be written in Wikipedia that isn't already published in reliable sources. The article implies the "Young" referred to by Hope Hale Davis is Marguerite Young. Is this specifically stated, or conjecture? If conjecture, it has no place in this article. There are dozens of references, but many seem to be sources written by Young, primary sources like her name in a list or passing mentions, or have no mention of Young whatsoever and so cannot verify statements about her. More secondary sources that directly discuss Young are needed. --Animalparty! (talk) 01:08, 27 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I see you removed speculation about her death but did not remove the part of the section heading "Personal life and death". It is very confusing as is.
--Óli Gneisti (talk) 15:30, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply