Talk:Maria Simon (sociologist)/GA1

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Reviewer: Firefangledfeathers (talk · contribs) 03:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Modussiccandi and thanks for nominating this article. I'll have the start of my review ready in the next 24 hours. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Would you be willing to email me a copy of Berndt? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@Firefangledfeathers: thank you so much for picking up this nomination. I will endeavour to email you a PDF of Berndt and I'll start to address your comments later. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 07:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   See notes below.

   Addressed.

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   One issue mentioned below.

   Addressed.

   B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

   Earwig report contains only false positives. First two spot checks came up clear.

   One possible bit of WP:CLOP; though this may be a machine-translation-related error on my part.

   Addressed. I spot checked an additional five sources (above what I organically checked during review) and found no additional concerns.

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   On hold to permit work on the items below. @Modussiccandi:, I can keep this on hold for about a week. Let me know if I should clarify any of the concerns/questions or help in some other way. Good luck! Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

   @Firefangledfeathers: I think I've addressed all your comments in the GA section. Please let me know if further work is required. Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 08:43, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

   @Modussiccandi: thanks! I'm going to take about a day and half (hopefully less) to give the article another full read through, confirm the addressing of the comments below, and spot-check a few more sources. If anything else turns up, I'll ping you. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

All GA criteria items addressed. This is a pass. @Modussiccandi: thank you for your excellent work. I hope you get a chance to work on the potential improvements mentioned in "Non-GA-criteria-related comments" below. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

FFFeedback

• Overall
  • There's a Harvref error related to Brendt 2018 that I'm fairly sure is caused by "ref=none" in the bibliography. I don't think it's needed here. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 14:02, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Short introductory phrases like "In 1939" can be followed by a comma or no punctuation, but this should be done consistently. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done I've tried to eliminate the inconsistencies. Should you nonetheless find more, feel free to correct. Modussiccandi (talk) 18:20, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Lead and infobox
• Early life and education
  • "In 1939" makes it seem like the Anschluss happened that year. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  I've adjusted the sentence Modussiccandi (talk) 14:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  • "a member of the Austrian resistance to National Socialism and helped prepare the Allied landing in Normandy from the United States" is unclear. As I understand it, Joseph was at this point part of the United States Army, but this makes it seem like his preparations for D-Day were as part of the Austrian resistance. Could we use "resistance to Nazism" instead? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
      • "and helped prepare the Allied landing in Normandy from the United States" still needs some work. If the Normandy detail is unclear in the sources, could we simplify to "later joined the United States Army"? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
        •  Done I've tried to make this part a bit clearer. Modussiccandi (talk) 07:48, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Joseph Simon is given too much re-introduction in the final paragraph. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    • I added the clause about him having emigrated to the UK because their previous interaction had taken place in Austria. Modussiccandi (talk) 18:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Academic career
  • "a popular field within the discipline": unclear what "the discipline is". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:11, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
  •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 12:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
• Directorship of the Akademie für Sozialarbeit
  • "Since 1971" → "Starting in 1971"? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 18:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure what "teaching instates" means. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Just a bad typo. Modussiccandi (talk) 18:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
• Retirement and death
  • "In her retirement, Simon remained active as a researcher and as a volunteer and founder of HPE" Can we drop "volunteer" and expand the acronym? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
  • "Vienna Döbling district" → "Vienna's Döbling district" Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
  • The two times the Akademie is called "the institute" might throw off some readers. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done I've changed it to 'academy'. Modussiccandi (talk) 11:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
• Legacy
  • What's the quote from the source that supports "According to Louis, Simon "broke new ground for future generations [of female students]" in her field"? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    • The source text is the following (I've highlighted the bit I translated; the text makes it clear that these are generations of female students): "in einer Zeit, in der in weiten Bereichen noch konservativer und autoritärer Unterricht vorherrschte, bot sie Studierenden neue Perspektiven, was sowohl die Lehrinhalte als auch die Vermittlung betraf. Schließlich war es ihre Funktion als Rollenvorbild für Studentinnen, welche sich für die nachfolgenden Generationen als wegweisend erweisen sollte." Modussiccandi (talk) 14:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
      • Excellent. Consider this one  Done. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  • "modes of instructs" → "modes of instruction" or "pedagogy". Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 12:10, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
  • "both Simon and Arlt viewed social work and its study as continuation of the Enlightenment project". Judging by machine translation, this may be an uncomfortably close paraphrase of the source. Could this be rewritten or directly quoted? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Turned it into a direct quotation. Modussiccandi (talk) 12:09, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
• Non-GA-criteria-related comments (optional)
  • I don't think "was emigrated" is wrong at all, but it does read a bit fusty. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done: I think this was just an error on my part. Modussiccandi (talk) 14:09, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Some translated quotes would benefit from adherence to MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:32, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 08:39, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
  • §Academic career starts with quite a bit of content that isn't related to the section topic. Could this be separated out or the section renamed?
  • The acronym IASSW is introduced once and never used. Drop it? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
    •  Done Modussiccandi (talk) 11:41, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks for adding the "broke new ground" quote in German. It might be better folded into the reference using the quote and trans-quote parameters. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)