Talk:Mariana Dahan

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This is incredibly non neutral] IMHO, it needs to be reworded or left out. Luck of the draw, it's the revision I protected. Please discuss. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Deepfriedokra: Agreed. For the statement "Mariana Dahan has been recognized as a courageous supporter of women’s rights and a defender of children and women victims of domestic violence" I would ask 'recognised by whom?' and the word courageous is editorialising and non-neutral. The statement would be valid without it, if properly sourced. Re "Featured in The Guardian upon the announcement of Johnny Depp’s failed attempt to intimidate his ex-wife, Dahan stated why the outcome of the lawsuit Depp filed against Amber Heard is so important – and will send a message to women around the world about the extent their voices matter" - she was quoted (not featured) in the Guardian. "Failed attempt to intimidate his wife" is not supported by the source given - there are probably other sources that might, so one should be given. "Stated ... is so important" and "will send a message ..." are the viewpoints of Dahan, not of the Guardian writer or of Wikipedia so that should be made clear. Lastly, the final paragraph formats the quote as an external link and doesn't attribute the quote to Dahan.
I recommend the article is rolled back to the 7 October version. Note, the IP edit on 2 November removing Dahan's date of birth is from the same IP that on 6 October claimed to be the subject of the article. They have not given a reason for removal of the date of birth, but perhaps it is incorrect / not widely known or sensitive given her claim to not have a birth certificate.
Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Curb Safe Charmer: You might want to make an edit request as I would be involved. I just too strongly agree with you to appear neutral. Also, the "failed to intimidate" should probably go as BLP. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
When the protecting admin cries Ay! Caramba! and argues against the version they protected, it should count for somethung. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:34, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  edit request done. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 11:39, 3 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. (or wait till tomorrow when protection expires...) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:59, 4 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
@MSGJ: I thought "I recommend the article is rolled back to the 7 October version" was clear. Is that doable? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
  Done. Didn't read that far! Got lost in the first paragraph — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:22, 4 November 2020 (UTC)Reply