Talk:Marion, Indiana/Archives/2015

Christmas City, USA

I remember, when I was growing up in Marion, it was known as "Christmas City, USA." I don't know when it started, maybe someone else does, or can find out. For me, I knew as early as 1964. Al Lowe 23:59, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

The Christmas City thing is still going. I think it was revived in the 90s, with the creation of the International Walkway of Lights. It's a regional attraction, and probably belongs in the article. Info here: [1]--Rmlucas 05:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Also was rumored in city lore about certain connections with the movie, A Christmas Story can this be verified?. DeathscytheH64 02:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it's not. I lived in Marion from about 1960 to 1978, and I can't say that the story for the movie had any connections with Marion. But I could be wrong. Al Lowe 08:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I grew up there from '87 to '99 and never heard anything like this. --Rmlucas 05:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The following is from IMDB trivia section: "The movie was based on a city in Indiana named Hammond. References were made throughout the film to support this claim. Examples: Harding school (on 165th St.) where Flick stuck his tongue to the flagpole, Goldblatt's department store, the mention of Griffith (a city that borders Hammond), Cleveland Ave and other streets that are located in Hammond. Although the movie was not filmed in Hammond the houses and look of the film is very authentic. Jean Shepherd (Writer) grew up in Hammond." The movie, however, was filmed in Cleveland, OH. Ragreen 16:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

History Cleanup

I think the History section should be expanded and does not fully reflect certain major highlights of the history of the area. DeathscytheH64 02:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

About the "last lynching" comment... last lynching in the north... what exactly is "the north?" There was a lynching in San Jose, CA (I suppose this would be "the west") in 1932, however the lynchees were white... more than just blacks have been lynched. This comment seems tremendously vague. Ragreen 16:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

That does seem vague; it should probably either be supported by a clear source or removed. Earlier I tightened the language a little, but I'm not an expert on it and it probably still needs works. (Note that, as mentioned below, that entire section isn't in the article right now; it may be restored in the future.) Huwmanbeing ☀★ 13:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

James Dean

James Dean is NOT from Marion, Indiana.

James Dean is, in fact, from Fairmount, Indiana. Fairmount is a town in the southern part of Grant County, Indiana.

I think he was born in Marion and grew up in Fairmount. --Rmlucas 04:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

You are correct, born in Marion, raised in Fairmont.Ragreen 16:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

History

The passage regarding the 1930s lynchings, previously included in the article's history section, has been cut several times recently, so I just wanted to get other users' input on how best to proceed. While I appreciate that it's an unpleasant episode, it seems to be sufficiently significant to merit being included. (Original discussion with Marion Giant 1999 is here.) Suggestions? Huwmanbeing ☀★ 01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree that it should be included, as it's fact, regardless of whether the city likes it or not. I actually remember reading about it in a history class when I was a kid. Plus, Marion has had and still has massive problems with racism.User:manutdglory —Preceding comment was added at 22:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Makes sense to include; highly notable event in the history of the city. JoshuaZ (talk) 19:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The section has now been restored and improved by Gtstricky. Huwmanbeing ☀★ 21:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The photo used on Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith should be used here. Mike R (talk) 21:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marion Giant 1999 (talk • contribs) 02:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Becuase it is a photo extreme historical importance related to the subject of the article. JoshuaZ (talk) 00:14, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Extreme historical importance may be overstating it, but yes, it is clearly significant. However, as you point out, the photo is used prominently in both the Thomas Shipp and Abram Smith articles, which the Marion article links directly to. That being the case, I don't feel it's necessary to reproduce it again here. Huwmanbeing ☀★ 01:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

"Queen City"

Marion's nickname is "Queen City" - really? Wow - enough said. Manutdglory (talk) 23:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Indiana Wesleyan University

This section needs checking. It seems to be promotional, with several mentions of "largest" facilities and aspects, including the false claim that it is the largest private university in the state (Notre Dame is bigger, if the wiki numbers for IWU are correct). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbeagle (talk • contribs) 14:02, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Check again - IWU has more than 15,000 total students (adult students count), while Notre Dame has less than 12,000 (check it's Wiki article). Get your facts straight before editing on Wikipedia! Flavius Constantine (talk) 06:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I have a question on the section, also -- it says that it is the largest employer in the area and contributes $1 million to the local economy. That seems a very low figure. Might they mean $1 billion? For such a large institution, surely the payroll in just the admin. section of the university far exceeds this amount. FrKurtMessick (talk) 21:18, 18 August 2012 (UTC)FrKurtMessick

People

Who on earth is Johnas Keppler? The only search results I find for him are on this page? Also, when did Dick van Dyke live in Marion? If there's no corroboration for this, I'm going to delete. --Rmlucas 01:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)Dick Van Dyke did not live in Marion, his uncle did and was a shoe salesman at S and H shoes on the square downtown across from the Court House. Dick and Jerry would visit a few times a year.

I remember Dick's Uncle (I grew up in Marion, Indiana), who used to be friends with my cousin, Mark Sutton. I once visited "Uncle Van" with Mark, and we sat on his back porch and chatted. His Uncle was a lot like Dick, both in looks and personality. Very friendly and humorous.NoFearBeTrue (talk) 19:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)NoFearBeTrue (talk) 19:53, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

What you remember is irrelevant to the content of the article. However, if you can find a published source documenting their connection, then we can use their names. John from Idegon (talk) 20:47, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Kirk Fogg not born in Marion...unfortunately, see his talk page 141.70.98.18 23:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

"Today, Marion is probably most well-known as the home of Julius Mays ,A.K.A "Ju-Ju the Future", the up and coming All-American basketball star for the Marion Giants." Umm..No. This is speculative and has zero corroboration. I'm going to go ahead and delete this. Lecollye (talk) 19:35, 15 January 2008 (UTC)