Talk:Marissa Mayer/Archives/2015

New and links

She resigned from Google 7-16-12. She was also appointed to the Board. She is expected to be voted to the board of Wal-Mart as well.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/07/17/idINL2E8IH01620120717

http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-10-02/managing-googles-idea-factory 71.110.202.44 (talk) 04:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Awards - I guess when you're famous you win a lot of them.

http://www.womeninecon.wsj.com/index.php/speakers/marissa-mayer

http://www.knightcomm.org/marissa-mayer/

http://www.nywici.org/matrix-awards/matrix-monday/jan-2-scholarship-spotlight

http://www.cisco.com/web/about/ac49/ac55/diversity_inclusion_achievements.html

http://press.exploratorium.edu/35th-annual-exploratorium-awards-dinner-may-8-2012/

http://thegrindstone.com/tag/marissa-mayer/

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/17/tech/web/fast-facts-marissa-mayer/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.202.44 (talk) 14:15, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

She reports being pregnant as well.

71.110.202.44 (talk) 05:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Loathed?

I would get rid of the stuff on her being hated by her employees. Valleywag (though often entertaining) is more of a rumor site than a reliable source. Besides seeming like a trivial footnote, it seems to go against Wikipedia's policy on bios of living people. See Wikipedia:BLP. 68.8.106.74 (talk) 03:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Idea: ((Infobox scientist)) instead of ((Infobox celebrity))

No question, person who is a scientist can be beautiful, and can be a celebrity. But the Infobox for "scientist" has fields such as (.e.g.) "alma_mater", which in my opinion should be included [notable] here -- and it probably has other fields that might be needed (now or later) here, such as (say) those for awards or technical accomplishments (maybe needed in the future, if not already). Theoretically she could get some kind of "celebrity" awards in the future, but I think some kind of technical achievement award would be more likely. Hence, I think the fields for "celebrity" are less important in this article. Only a few of those "Infobox" fields are currently being used (birth date and place, and occupation) and -- (I think) -- those are common to both of these two kinds of "Infobox" templates.

Any comments? Any objections to using ((Infobox scientist)) instead of ((Infobox celebrity))? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 02:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Use Scientist, cuz that's what she is (one who just happens to have a public presence). --ZimZalaBim ^talk 03:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

> Any comments?

Ooops, this whole section might be unnecessary. I guess I just misunderstood, the extent of / the nature of, what difference it makes, using one kind of ((Infobox Person)) instead of another.

Example: I just tried adding a field value for "alma_mater" and it worked OK, even though it still says ((Infobox Celebrity)).

So maybe there is no need to change the "kind" of ((Infobox Person)) ...after all. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 03:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Ethnicity?

Queery: does anyone know what is the ethnic origin of the name "Mayer"? 69.254.213.117 (talk) 21:51, 5 October 2010 (UTC) Arkhamite

It's one of the most common names in Germany. A Mayer was the steward of a farmers property. 94.220.129.89 (talk) 22:31, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

This one says "Finnish decent" http://www.kauppalehti.fi/etusivu/google-johtaja+vieraili+suomessa+sukujuurillaan/201111102319? but it doesn't say father or mother's side so not sure about the family name.

Her mother is Finnish American per source. --Stryn (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The machine translation I got was obscure. Woz2 (talk) 00:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I find this bit irrelevant and distracting: "Mayer's mother is of Finnish descent.[11]". If you think it is relevant, wouldn't it be better to phrase it as "Mayer was born in Wausau, Wisconsin, the daughter of Margaret, an art teacher of Finnish descent and . . .". But I still think it's irrelevant. Billz2208 (talk) 18:20, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Pronounciation

Mayer pronounced "MY-err"; can someone render it appropriately? jhawkinson (talk) 02:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Fact check: selected by Gov. Jim Doyle to National Youth Science Camp?

Re: "After graduating from Wausau West High School in 1993, Mayer was selected by Wisconsin governor Jim Doyle as one of the state's two delegates to attend the National Youth Science Camp in West Virginia."

Jim Doyle was not governor in 1993 when Marissa was selected to attend the National Youth Science Camp. If governors did indeed select delegates in 1993, then Mayer would have been selected by Tommy Thompson, the governor of Wisconsin from 1987-2001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.126.243 (talk) 03:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

You're right. Verified and fixed. In the future, be sure to sign your posts per WP:SIGHOW. --76.189.98.15 (talk) 06:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC) 06:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Yahoo! official press release announcing Mayer's hiring

For background information/verification: Yahoo! Appoints Marissa Mayer Chief Executive Officer --76.189.98.15 (talk) 07:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

External links section

I asked administrator j⚛e decker to give his opinion on large number of links listed in the External links section because it seemed like overkill.

Joe said, "External links: It seems excessive to me, too. Maybe move a block of the ones you think to be extraneous to the talk page?"

Most of the links are simply general news stories or video interviews, with content already included and cited in the article. Others appear to have no encylopedic value.

Per Joe's guidance, I have moved the links below here to the talk page. Feel free to give your input on any you feel are worthy for inclusion in the External Links section.

You can refer to WP:EL regarding Wikipedia's guidelines on External Links.

1. *Appearances on C-SPAN
2. *Marissa Mayer/Archives/2015 on Charlie Rose
3. * "The adventures of Marissa" February 27, 2008 in San Francisco Magazine.
4. * Video-Interview February 2007 (English, German intro, German subtitles)
5. * "Inside Google's New-Product Process" June 30, 2006 in Business Week Online.
6. * "Managing Google's Idea Factory" October 3, 2005 in Business Week Online.
7. * Good Experience interview October 15, 2002
8. * Marissa Mayer At Le Web: The (Almost) Complete Interview December 10, 2008 at techcrunch.com
9. * Digg Dialogg: Marissa Mayer July 30, 2009 at digg.com
10. * Marissa Mayer On 'Twitchy' Google Her Cell Phone Number, And Maps May 25, 2011 in HuffPost Tech
11. * Cyberposium 12: Marissa Mayer Keynote Video
12. * Innovation, Sharing and Dreams: Marissa Mayer speaking at Stanford
13. * Google I/O '08 Keynote by Marissa Mayer
14. * cover story in the April 2012 issue of IEEE Spectrum (archived from the original on April 06, 2012)

--76.189.98.15 (talk) 22:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC) 22:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Size of Picture

The size of Mayer's picture is distracting. I cannot figure out how to adjust it without have text around it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kokothegorilla3 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you think it overly large? TheSoundAndTheFury (talk) 15:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Looked fine to me. Can we vote? A gorilla might think it too small. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 13:44, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Photography Controversy

I would say that insulting every professional photographer in the world is not... minor. You may discuss. CaffeinAddict (talk) 21:04, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

This is where professional photographers took offence at a live Q&A question from Mayer, and Mayer apologised later the same day saying that she misspoke. Giving this more weight than her appointment as CEO or criticism over telecommuting seems WP:UNDUE, and the sources seem to reflect that - the existing aspects were covered by mainstream press, but the offence caused to photographers is currently sourced only to photography blogs. --McGeddon (talk) 21:13, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Does any editor disagree that it is WP:UNDUE to mention a Q&A gaffe with no mainstream press coverage in a four-paragraph "Career" section? --McGeddon (talk) 20:14, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Considering she's a CEO of such a large company I'm surprised her wiki page is bigger. It seems undue because there's a lot of info about her career missing I think. CaffeinAddict (talk) 20:55, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't matter how undue the paragraph would be in some hypothetical bigger article, just whether it's undue in the current version. --McGeddon (talk) 18:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

It isn't then. That's why it's there with 5 or 6 sources. I'll do a little digging and fill out her career section more. CaffeinAddict (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Every CEO makes the occasional gaffe or makes groups of people on the internet angry. If all sources are blogs and the only reliable source reporting on the incident is a Wall Street Journal blog, then this is clearly not on a par with other events in her career and it is unhelpfully misrepresentative to present it as being on the same level as her widely-covered comments on telecommuting. --McGeddon (talk) 20:22, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Response to third opinion request:

Yes, a paragraph would be undue at this point. However, in the future, if this article is expanded (I'll certainly put it on my TDL), and it happens that her gaffe is covered in more detail by more reliable sources, than a paragraph, perhaps including some other missteps (if they happen) would be more than warranted. TheOneSean [ U | T | C ] 21:31, 27 May 2013 (UTC) TheOneSean [ U | T | C ] 21:31, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I just want to chime in and say that I agree with Theonesean and McGeddon here. This only seems even remotely of importance because it's her only newsworthy gaffe in a short tenure as CEO of a major public company. Compare to Steve Jobs, who had at least dozens of controversial product announcements, few or none of which are mentioned in his biography. If this is really important to Flickr it should mentioned there, as part of the coverage of how Flickr old timers react to the redesign. But I doubt this one statement is really worth a paragraph in her bio. Steven Walling • talk 04:54, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Well I'm pretty disappointed this has been removed. This is a quote/gaffe that is going to haunt her her whole I life. CaffeinAddict (talk) 19:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Story in Vogue Magazine

Have not had a chance to really look at it, but it probably has stuff that can be addwed to the article? http://www.vogue.com/magazine/article/hail-to-the-chief-yahoos-marissa-mayer/#1 XOttawahitech (talk) 20:43, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Dating Larry Page?

Some time ago I read this page and it said that MM dated Larry Page for some time. Now, there's not a hint of this left. Can someone explain me why or point me to the corresponding discussion? I did some rapid Googling and it seems that this is true... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.123.165.70 (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

It's pretty labor intensive to track down what used to be in the aritcle without knowing when, but you can certainly browse the history if you'd like.

In general, we don't include who is "dating" whom unless it is particularly high profile (e.g., Justin Bieber and whatshername from the Disney wizards show) or moves on to cohabitation, children, etc. - SummerPhD (talk) 21:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Career

How does attention to detail alone get you promoted as manager. That's just one critical step, the others are time management, leadership, organizational skills, and the ability to cheerlead and boss people around effectively. If all you have is the attention to detail, then you often don't get very far. The article needs to be cleaned up a bit. Its writers are lazy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.89.58 (talk) 13:26, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

But the article doesn't say that attention to detail "alone" led to a promotion, merely that it "helped". --McGeddon (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Propose to remove bit about not sleeping much

With regard to this line: Mayer belongs to the 1% to 3% of the population who only need 4 to 6 hours of sleep per day. The claim that she only sleeps 4 to 6 hours a day is vague and self reported and more to the point, the sources that describe it don't really go into any detail on the amount of sleep a person actually needs each day for basic function. One of them does have a link to an article that in turn has a link to another article in the Wall Street Journal that delves into the idea a little more deeply, but I don't really think that results in a significant enough connection to be mentioned here. --24.96.125.235 (talk) 01:27, 22 April 2015 (UTC)