Talk:Mark Davis (basketball, born 1973)

Requested move

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The result of the proposal was move to Mark Davis (NBA). While Necrothesp has a good point regarding the knowledge/ability to decipher particular basketball-related acronyms, it is likely that someone searching for either of the Mark Davis's is likely to know "NBA" or "NBL" (whichever applies), or will be helped there by the dab page and/or hatnotes. JPG-GR (talk) 00:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The recent move to the current location doesn't make sense. It will be difficult to create links. It is also unnecessary as the proper template could be placed at the top of this article to link to the other player wtih the same name (i.e., Mark Davis (NBL). →Wordbuilder (talk) 13:49, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that "born 1973" should be avoided if possible, but it's really not a good option to use the "(basketball)" qualifier to disambiguate someone from another basketball player. How about calling this one Mark Anthony Davis or Mark Davis (NBA)? (I'm also posting a little pointer to this discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (people).) -- Jao (talk) 14:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I usually suggest calling one Mark Anthony Davis and the other Mark Davis. -Djsasso (talk) 14:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Nah, using middle names is usually discouraged. This should be at Mark Davis (NBA). Easy call. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I would have thought the obvious disambiguation would be Mark Davis (American basketball player) and Mark Davis (Australian basketball player). It may not be strictly accurate (since the latter was American-born), but it makes sense. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

But "American" leaves some ambiguity - "NBA" leaves none. They apparently had no crossover in pro leagues. —Wknight94 (talk) 15:16, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Mark Davis (NBA) sounds good to me. →Wordbuilder (talk) 15:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

My only problem with disambiguating like this is that many people (me included) would have no idea what NBA and NBL meant! I always think it's better to disambiguate using terms that anyone can understand, not just people who know about the particular genre. Most Americans may know what NBA means, but most non-Americans won't. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:40, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Which is why I in the end usually go for middle names, and yes I know its discouraged but a simple dab at the top of each page clears up any confusion. Where as using the league might be confusing as mentioned above, and using country they played in is too long and could cause confusion, and usually only use birthdate as a last resort. -Djsasso (talk) 20:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

My thing now is how the Search box autofills now. If I am looking for Mark Davis the basketball player, I'll start typing "M-a-r-k-space-D-a-v-i-s" and by now, I will see the various Mark Davises with disambiguation qualifiers. If the actual article has a middle name, I'm doomed with that approach. Moreover, I don't see what's so confusing about NBA vs. NBL. There's a better chance of someone typing in "M-a-r-k-space-D-a-v-i-s-space-(-N" than remembering the guy's middle name. —Wknight94 (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

You aren't really hooped, you get the disambig page and then click the link to the one you want...-Djsasso (talk) 02:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I say? You may known what NBA and NBL mean, but that doesn't mean everyone else does. Middle names are discouraged for reasons of consistency. If he's not known by that name, then the article shouldn't be at that name. In any case, who knows what most people's middle names are? As to disambiguators being too long - better that than unclear. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

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Mark Davis (NBA) → Mark Davis (basketball, born 1973) — This Mark Davis is not only known for his playing career in the NBA, he also played in CBA and various other leagues. Also to follow a naming convention which is common for disambiguating NBA players who have same names, such as:

• Bobby Jones (basketball, born 1951) and Bobby Jones (basketball, born 1984)
• Charles Jones (basketball) and Charles Jones (basketball, born 1962)
• Mike Smith (basketball, born 1976), Mike Smith (basketball, born 1963) and Mike Smith (basketball, born 1965)

Please also see the similar discussion on Talk:Mark Davis (1980s NBA player). Thanks. — Martin tamb (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Those weighing this issue should consider the closed discussion at the top of this page. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the move; just want to make sure that is not missed. →Wordbuilder (talk) 20:04, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The main thing that bothers me is the (NBA) part, because he did not play exclusively in the NBA, in fact he has spent the last 10 years of his career outside the NBA, longer than his 5-year NBA career. This has never been brought up in the previous discussion. — Martin tamb (talk) 20:58, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Support - that seems to be the standard among basketball player articles.—Chris!_c/t 22:03, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Support, per above. Zagalejo^^^ 17:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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