Talk:Mark Zuckerberg
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Net worth conflicting information
The main article says he has a net worth of $111 billion. The box on the side (sorry, I know you all have a wonderful name for it, but I don't know what it is) says he has a net worth of $99.6 billion and both give "September 2020" as the date for the estimate. Which is it? 82.15.132.29 (talk)
MSincccc I did not want to start the GA review yet but I have some comments for improvement. Currently his net worth is quoted for a given day, I think that is good. However, he is listed behind several others. This list changes often and it is not particularity notable that the list had those members in that order on that day. I would remove the list and just leave it at "the fourth".
- Good shout - glad to see the article's now inline with this future proofed suggestion. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Arie Hasit's incorrect claim
Arie Hasit claims Zuckerberg's "FaceMash" put pictures of two males OR two females next to each other, but Zuckerberg said UNDER OATH during questioning that it was in fact "girls" whose pictures were being used this way.
- You have a point - but I believe what happened was that Congressman Billy Long asked if Facemash involved putting up "pictures of two women and decide which one is the better, more attractive of the two?" and Zuck replied "Congressmen, that is an accurate description of the prank website". The focus of the hearing was the Cambridge Analytical scandal - Facemash was not especially relevant so not overly surprising if Zuck didnt take the time to paint a comprehensive picture of what FaceMash was all about. My understanding is that FM was indeed mostly about rating young women, but occasionally lads too. So I don't see Hasit's claim as technically incorrect, and it's fully supported by the WP:RS. I'd agree the way we're covering FaceMash could certainly be improved and you'd be very welcome to do so, but it's fine as is for GA purposes. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
FWD.us Ads
This sentence "in protest of Zuckerberg ads funded by FWD.us" does not make sense in context. What is a Zukerberg ad? The reader, myself included, has no idea. Maybe they are ads supporting Zuckerberg? Or written by him? Czarking0 (talk) 00:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Copy edited that for clarity. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Politics Proseline
The Politics section of the article is WP:Proseline I recommend creating subsections around the topics of note and expanding upon them. Czarking0 (talk) 00:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, and IMO this would have to be addressed were this article put up for FA. But for me, the article still passes GA criteria 1a even allowing for the essay violation. Thanks for the good suggestions! FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
Recent political revelations
This is worth an update
https://www.wsj.com/tech/mark-zuckerberg-neutral-politics-letter-election-2024-02b86372
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-27/meta-ceo-says-he-was-pressured-by-biden-to-pull-covid-content Helpingtoclarify (talk) 05:07, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. Info from sources provided by yourself and editor JacktheBrown have been integrated in to the article. Thanks both. FeydHuxtable (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Zuckerberg's revelations
[1] (The Guardian), [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], etc.; there are many reliable sources about this, e.g. The Guardian. JacktheBrown (talk) 18:20, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Mark's Eastern European origins
My edit in order to clarify origins of Mark's family was removed by @SNUGGUMS: due to:
- Questionable sourcing:
Both Wprost and The New Voice of Ukraine are reputable online sources. Second source quotes Ukrainian historian Oksana Lobko (PhD in history). I couldn't find English version of the article on The New Voice of Ukraine's website itself. So had to go with the reprint on news.novyny.live.
- not sure it's even relevant to begin with:
Current info and it's source in the article about his ancestors being from Poland violates Using the subject as a self-published source which says: Such material may be used as a source only if: it does not involve claims about third parties. In his post he's talking about third party - his great grandparents, not about himself. So that statement either needs to be removed or clarified, which is what I did. Korwinski (talk) 12:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- While I admittedly wasn't familiar with the linked publications, my point on relevance was that simply mentioning Zuck has ancestors from Austria, Germany, Poland is sufficient detail, so I don't see the need to go into specific parts of the countries. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's not sufficient, but misleading. His ancestors were not from Poland. Because when his great-great grandfather was born in 1866, Poland did not exist on political map of Europe for almost a century at that point. Naturally they also weren't Polish citizens. We don't even know if they ever lived in any Polish state, because Jews used to move around back then. And they could have easily moved to Galicia after partitions from Hungary, Prussia, proper Austria or Lithuania. Korwinski (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is "proper" Austria supposed to mean? At no point have I came across that being used before its name. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's usually used as another name for Archduchy of Austria. Sometimes also including surrounding predominantly German-speaking Duchies that were part of Austrian Empire. Examples: 1, 2. 23:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC) Korwinski (talk) 23:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly is "proper" Austria supposed to mean? At no point have I came across that being used before its name. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's not sufficient, but misleading. His ancestors were not from Poland. Because when his great-great grandfather was born in 1866, Poland did not exist on political map of Europe for almost a century at that point. Naturally they also weren't Polish citizens. We don't even know if they ever lived in any Polish state, because Jews used to move around back then. And they could have easily moved to Galicia after partitions from Hungary, Prussia, proper Austria or Lithuania. Korwinski (talk) 18:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Mention of The Social Network in the lead
The introduction presents The Social Network as a film "depicting Zuckerberg's early career, legal troubles and initial success with Facebook". But the film is largely dramatized and only loosely based on what happened. As explained in the article, Aaron Sorkin himself explained that he wanted it to be good storytelling, and was not particularly interested in truth. The introduction should probably hint at this fact. Alenoach (talk) 23:37, 6 November 2024 (UTC)