Talk:Marker pen/Archives/2014

explanation

surely an explanation of the mechanisms of felt tips would be handy here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.232.250.93 (talk) 14:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

merge these two?

This and this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-permanent_marker should be merged in to one, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris-Gonzales (talk • contribs) 08:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I find this page interesting, because the usage of "marker" and "felt-tipped pen" vary througout the world. For example, if you put this page in German it will come up as Felt tipped pen, but of course the word in German. I find this kind of cool, how one things has two completly different names used the same in different parts of the world. Anyway, hope you enjoyed this like I did. Thanks

Some comic genius has screwed with the page and changed all the "pens" to "penis" and also "tipped" to "tittied". Oh how we laughed, I've changed most back, but have no html skills for the link.

Thanks. You can click the history tab to view the page history and from there you can restore a previous revision of the article with much less effort. Shinobu (talk) 16:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Magic Marker

In what countries does the term "magic marker" refer to a color-changing pen? In the U.S., it is a brand (owned by Bic) of normal black markers. Tlesher 17:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Magic Marker

Has "Magic Marker" become a genericized trademark in the United States? I might just be that I am wierd, but all of my friends and I have always called any type of felt-tipped marker a "Magic Marker". That would would not include permenant markers, which we call "Sharpies". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jetset59 (talk • contribs) 16:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

From the Australia section: In Australia, the term "marker" usually refers only to large-tip markers, and the term "felt-tip pen" usually refers only to fine-tip markers."

This matches the usage I have always known in the U.S. I think Magic Marker is somewhat genericized. I have always heard it used for any kind of thick marker. Sharpie is used all the time, but always refers to a pen or marker of that actual brand. SandyFace (talk) 02:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

This is a term somewhat like the use of "Frigidaire" for refrigerator and "xerox" for photocopy. My memory is that the first brand of felt tip pen strong enough to write anywhere-- unlike ballpoints-- appeared around 1960, and my highschool friends and I immediately explored its potential for graffitti. Magic Marker was the brand name, I think. Does someone know the formal linguistic name for this?

Brand Name becomes popular name for an object

Writing today in the Observer (England) Andrew Anthony said, of Christopher Hitchens, "Last year, on a visit to Beirut, he came across a poster for the Syrian Social Nationalist party, a Nazi-style group with a fondness for armed henchmen. Finding it impossible to tear down the poster, he took out a magic marker and defaced it with some frank and unflattering graffito. Moments later, a group of thugs tried to wrestle him into a car. In the ensuing attempt to flee, he was punched, bloodied and knocked to the ground." Plainly Anthony, an Englishman, means by "magic marker" what I, an American would mean. Profhum (talk) 01:04, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Artistic uses of felt-tip pens

The article does not mention art, artist or artistic, nor artist medium. Yet the fine-medium point pens are widely used by sketchers in sidewalk portraiture, in travel illustrations, in architectural renderings - including historical buildings (whether standing or demolished and long lost), architect's preliminary design sketches, and other disciplines. Wide-point (flat, chiseled or champfered points) are widely used by site plan illustrators, by landscape architects, and others to express fields of color, materials or topography.

I can locate sources if warranted, but for now this is simply my own experience and observation as a professional architect, and as attendee at numerous design fora & conferences. Arfiezy (talk) 18:04, 18 April 2010 (UTC) Bill Marston architect Philadelphia

Elegance

Trying to discover how an "electronic cigarette" works, to vote on whether airlines should permit them, I find its article saying it is "about the size of a magic marker." Magic marker linked to this article. Wikipedia links are reaching a state of internal design elegance that Steve Jobs would have enjoyed. God is in the details. Profhum (talk) 14:23, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

colored markers? (i.e. crayola)

They don't seem to fit any of the "types" listed on this page. I find this very confusing. At least in my area, (Northeast US) when people say "marker" in a context of writing/drawing, they usually mean the Crayola kind. Otherwise, they would specifically say "highlighter", "permanent marker", or "wet/dry-erase marker".

And yes, in the U.S., "magic marker" is definitely a genericized trademark. It is used interchangeably with "marker", also usually meaning Crayola (even though it's a trademark of another company.)

22:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.27.133.82 (talk)

American Usage

I noticed the way the article is written suggests these pens are just called "markers" in America. I grew up in America and I'd differentiate primarily on size and purpose - any large pen like this would be a "marker", while anything small and intended for writing (as opposed to drawing or sketching) would be a "felt-tip pen". Not sure how typical that is. --202.213.201.225 (talk) 05:52, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Texta

I thought a Texta was a twist-top crayon inside a hollow plastic tube, not a felt marker. Lazybeam (talk) 10:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

When I was a kid in 1970s Australia, we already referred to fibre-tipped markers generically as "textas". Coloured propelling pencils or crayons were unknown to us in those days; the only propelling or clutch pencils were graphite ones used by draughtsmen.

My father had a full, coloured set of Texta-branded markers. They had thick, squareish, angled tips made of felt rather than parallel fibres. (Although colloquially called "felt tip pens", most products were different constructions of "fibre tip" and true felt tips had become unusual.) The bodies were short (about 4" or 10cm), made of opaque plastic, and two-toned: the tip moulding was colour-coded and the bulk of the barrel was black.

I wish I had a photo or a contemporaneous published reference, but this is just my memory.

Pelagic (talk) 00:20, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

"sharpie" as a generic term is something I have never heard used in any part of Australia I have lived. Can anyone confirm the usage of sharpie in reference to anything other than the specific "sharpie" brand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.127.22 (talk) 10:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I came here to find information about the company named 'TEXTA' but it just re-directs to 'marker pen' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.35.82.168 (talk) 05:45, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

History of felt tip pens?

I came here looking to learn when felt-tip pens were introduced and by what company, especially, when the trademarked "Magic Marker" came onto the market. Feel the entry is incomplete without that information. Suppose I could do a painstaking patent search, but an encyclopedia entry, hopefully, would include that information. Can anyone add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.52.1 (talk) 19:26, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Already German inventor Adolf von Baeyer invented for his children fluorescein marking pen. 188.96.178.146 (talk) 22:11, 2 November 2014 (UTC)