Talk:Marl Chemical Park

Rename, Rewrite

Based on tags placed by user:DinosaursLoveExistence, did the following:

• Renamed page from Chemische Werke Hüls, its historic name during World War II, to Marl Chemical Park, its current name.
• Rewrote the article with expanded text and references from German wiki
• Found text on this topic in other articles such as Marl, North Rhine-Westphalia and moved/incorporated it here.
• Fixed linking problems to this article and to other stubs referring to the same thing.

Some of this work is still in progress. Because this topic is part of the Industrial Heritage Trail, that template will need adjusting once work on this and related pages is complete. Ultracobalt (talk) 21:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Work completed Ultracobalt (talk) 21:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 18:04, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that a fire at Marl Chemical Park in 2012 interrupted the world supply of a key precursor chemical that impacted the auto industry?
  • ALT1:... that Marl Chemical Park is the third largest integrated industrial center in Germany?

• Reviewed: F. Andrieu
• Comment: There are several "firsts" and interesting history around this obscure chemical plant... I selected a hook I thought was contemporary but WWII stuff is also a possibility.

Created/expanded by Ultracobalt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

Interesting place. on good sources, offline and French accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I am not sure that "a key precursor chemical" makes the original hook much better. The ALT is a bit size-only, - how about adding 1938 origins, and "Marl-Hüls" which is a name I'd recognize better than the modern one? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Given that DYK is intended primarily for worldwide audiences and not strictly German ones, the modern name (Marl) would probably still be the preferred option here (indeed, "Marl-Hüls" appears nowhere in the article, and our article on the town lists it as simply "Marl"). I would have to agree that the original hook is too vague: it may be a good idea to mention exactly what the chemical was (cyclododecatriene). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

I didn't mean to replace the modern name, just hint at history back to 1938, Chemische Werke Hüls, mentioned in the article but too much German. I don't believe that the exact chemical adds to interest, at least for the estimated 95% of readers unfamiliar with it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah no problem I understood your suggestion and note that Marl-Hüls is more known in German. Also focusing on the WWII history may have more of a hook than a rare chemical. I've found an additional reference and will try a new Hook approach in a day or two Ultracobalt (talk) 05:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Ultracobalt It's been almost a month. SL93 (talk) 08:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

• The nominator hasn't edited since last month and some issues remain unaddressed. Unless another editor can adopt this (Gerda Arendt?) or the nom returns, the nomination is now marked for closure as stale. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 14:33, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

  I wonder why you are fast with the closure threat? Which issues remain. Wasn't it just hopes for improvements?

  --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

  You made it seem like a new hook was needed. Fast? It was almost a month. SL93 (talk) 16:51, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

FYI I've promoted and reworded as follows: "... that a fire at Marl Chemical Park in 2012 interrupted the world supply of a chemical that was crucial to the auto industry?" Let me know if you have concerns about the revision. Edge3 (talk) 18:04, 6 March 2021 (UTC)