Talk:Marmaduke Constable
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editI took this down.
- His sister Janet Constable married Randell Etherington (died 29 October 1520), son of William Etherington and Alice Skerne. They were the ancestors of Amanda Staveley, an entrepreneur who was once engaged to Prince Andrew, Duke of York[1]. Source [1]: [1]
The source is not accurate. It even states at the top of the page The following material on the immediate ancestry of Amanda Staveley should not be considered either exhaustive or authoritative, but rather as a first draft.
Also, there is no listing of this person anywhere else in the sources I have looked at:
- Richardson, William & Everinham, Kimball G. Plantagenet ancestry: a study in colonial and medieval families (2004), pg 225.
- Constable, Stirnet.com
Lady Meg (talk) 22:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
This family association is listed on the LDS "Ancestral File," database, FamilySearch [2] : accessed 2014-07-13), entry for Janet CONSTABLE, father Robert CONSTABLE, husband Randall ETHERINGTON . I have been researching this family for some years, and agree that this relationship is not proved and is unlikely, as the database suggests Robert Constable had an unlikely 15 children. However, there is a case that Jennet (Janet) Etherington (b c 1470) was proabably related to the Constables, possibly a daughter of Sir Maramaduke. Her will (dated Oct 17 1540, proved York 1/8/1541) mentions property "in the hands of Sir Marmaduke the Younger", her third son was named Marmaduke, and the Etheringtons were a leading family in Holme on Splding Moore which was a principal residence of Sir Marmaduke. His will mentions only one duaghter 'my daughter Percy' and it is known that he had at least one other daughter. In 1558, Sir Marmaduke Constable the Younger transferred former monastic land at Cattleholmes, Lowthorpe to Jennet's son, William Etherington of Driffield (TNA E 134/38Eliz/East2 (1596) and E 134/38Eliz/Hil19 (1596)). In c1565, Jennet's grandson George Etherington married a grandniece of Sir Marmaduke, Agnes Constable, daughter of another Marmaduke. They named their eldest son Marmaduke (b 1566). None of this is conclusive, and not sufficient to be placed on the formal biography. But, it is worthy of note and further research. User:jc33a, 13 July 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 03:44, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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editDo we need all of this? It's rather confusing and does not fit with the general ancestry tree. If you're going to do a tree -- just put the person, that's it. You don't need to go all the way back to his 10th great-grandfather. If you really need to explain all this put it in a section, not on the tree. Also, you don't need to put the link to a source in the box with the person. The link will show in the references section if it's done properly. -- Lady Meg (talk) 07:22, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
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16. Sir Robert Constable.For further back Greatx5-grandson of John Fitz[a] Richard of Flamborough (c.1130–1190[b]), Greatx4-grandson of Greatx3-grandson of Sir William le Constable of Flamborough (before 1208–before 1267[d]) Greatx2-grandson of Sir Robert le Constable of Flamborough (died c.1272) Instead of 4 generations some genealogies only have 2 generations between Great-grandson of Sir William le Constable of Flamborough (died c. 1319)[g] Grandson of Sir Robert le Constable of Flamborough (died after 1339[h]) Son of Sir Marmaduke le Constable of Flamborough (died 1378[i]) [married twice] Some genealogies claim that a Sir William Constable belongs here.[f]
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These notes are not appropriate for the ancestry tree, better to add the information to the relevant articles. -- PBS (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
- for further back than William Gascoigne, see Lundy, Darryl. "p. 15819 § 158181 , William Gascoigne". The Peerage.
{{cite web}}: External link in|publisher= - (for further back than Agnes Franke, see Lundy, Darryl. "p. 15819 § 158182 , Agnes Franke". The Peerage.
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Two more comments moved to the talk page as they may be of use to someone who wants to develop the ancestry tree, but they are not suitable for inclusion in article space.