Talk:Marshall Mills

Requested move 16 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – MaterialWorks (contribs) 18:35, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Marshall Mills → ? – No clear primary topic over the building in Leeds Marshall's Mill which is "Marshall Mills" in the listing and has 98 views compared with only 7[[1]] for this one. Most Google and Images results are for the Leeds mill. The mill also likely has more long-term significance than this footballer as its been around for over 200 years and since its listed will probably be around far into the future. The date of birth and death aren't even known of the footballer. Marshall Mills (American football) would be the obvious choice but it seems that there is another that was active in the 1970s at fr:Marshall Mills which would probably be notable there. There is also Commons:Category:Marshall Mills (International Monetary Fund). I'm unsure on the target but I suggest creating a DAB at the base name or redirecting this title to a DAB. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:57, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Oppose move. This is an unnecessary disambiguation at this time. "Marshall's Mill" is similar, but not identical to "Marshall Mills". If an article for another Marshall Mills is created, then disambiguation here may be in order. Note that I've expanded this article, adding the subject YOB, DOD, and more. Seems he may be as notable for his mining and manufacturing business career as his college football career. Jweiss11 (talk) 06:09, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Marshall Mills (American football, born 1877) then? As noted some sources call the building "Marshall Mills" which is identical, see WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:37, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Oppose move per Jweiss11 as unnecessary disambiguation. A hatnote at the top of this page already takes care of anyone who may be looking for the building, which has a different name than the subject of this article. Ejgreen77 (talk) 15:08, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose Disambiguation is not needed where there is only page currently titled "Marshall Mills". For "Marshall's Mill", it's a misspelling, not a valid alternative spelling. Hatnotes handle the misspelling cases.—Bagumba (talk) 15:12, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

  It doesn't seem to be a misspelling as its used by English Heritage and other sources. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:02, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

  Building sign reads "Marshall's Mill"[2] —Bagumba (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

  Yes the building seems to be more commonly known as "Marshall's Mills" than "Marshall Mills" per searches of both forms with Leeds on the end but it seems like the building is called "Marshall Mills" commonly enough to prevent the footballer from being primary. Even if the building was only called "Marshall Mills" less than 10% of the time it would still be a more likely target than the footballer for "Marshall Mills". And per the 2nd criteria of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC the building likely has more long-term significance as well. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:50, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose move. The hatnote that has been added to Marshall Mills solves ant potential for confusion. Cbl62 (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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