Talk:Martin Atkinson

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Hi. In response to removal of relevant info. The userbox contains details of a notable scoreline during Martin's refereeing career, and broadly in line with similar content to be found in other articles on football referees. When removing any content, please either leave an edit summary, or post here to explain why it is being removed. Thanks. Refsworldlee^(chew-fat)(eds) 02:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Can we include the fact that he ignored a vicious tackle by Manchester City's Nigel de Jong on Newcastle United's Hatem Ben Arfa? He initially motioned for Ben Arfa to get up, as if he had dived. Ben Arfa broke his tibia and fibula and is out until March. Nigel de Jong did not even receive a card for the incident, nor was the FA allowed to fine or suspend him because Martin Atkinson took no action. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.31.138.171 (talk) 01:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Place of Birth

It states that his place of birth is Yorkshire, yet it has been published before that he was in fact born in Washington, County Durham and didn't move to Yorkshire until his late teens. Also he was a Sunderland supporter as a boy and even had photo's published in local newspapers showing him as a pre-match mascot.--86.21.136.74 (talk) 19:12, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Criticisms

Under criticisms why not add that he was referee in the Chelsea v Manchester United matches at Stamford Bridge in both the 2009/10 and 2010/11 seasons he made several incorrect decisions that not only decided the result but in the case of the latter, technically, decided the league?

2009/10 1) John Terry should have been yellow carded and given away a penalty why he hauled Antonio Valencia to the ground in the box. 2) Ashley Cole was playing Wayne Rooney onside by around 10 yards when he was clear through on goal and yet it was given as offside. 3) The winning goal was scored as result of a free kick given against Darren Fletcher when replays showed he had clearly won the ball. The subsequent free kick was scored by John Terry who's header bypassed Didier Drogba whom was himself in offside position whilst actively attempting to play the ball while simultaneously, blatantly fouling Wes Brown by pulling him by the shirt to the ground.

2010/11 1) Failed to give a penalty against John Terry when he controlled the ball with his arm in box in the first half 2) Failed to book or give a foul against Branislav Ivanovic on the many occasions where he committed fouls. One of which was an off the ball lunge on Nani in the box which should have resulted in a penalty 3) Failed to book David Luiz blatant foul on Wayne Rooney in first half, failed to book him for an off the ball trip/body check on Javier Harnandez and failed to book (and subsequently him off) for a trip/body check on Wayne Rooney 4) Awarded and extremely soft penalty to Chelsea two minutes after the last incident. Where Yuri Zhirkov threw himself over Chris Smalling's leg. If Luiz's tackle is not seen as a foul (when it is 100 times more blatant and the same distance from the referee who was around 6 yards away and looking at both incidents) how is this? 5) The ball was also in play for around 40 seconds during the 4 minutes of added time (which should have been more as Evra had been down injured for around 3 minutes, a 'penalty' was given, 2 goals were scored and 6 substitutions were made) and yet this was not made up.

The question must also be asked as to why he was put in charge of the second match when his performance in the first was so poor.

Both of these cases are far more pertinent than the those of the Manchester Derby, which is just a case of a certain bitter set of fans feeling disgruntled that their mediocre team's blatant time wasting after equalising has not been successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.235.47.77 (talk) 22:41, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I have added some detail regarding last night's match. My additions comply well with Wikipedia's rules on neutrality. Tbmurray 12:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

6) [i] Awarded a goal to Chelsea when the ball had not encroached the goal line in the FA Cup Semi-Final [ii] Did not send off or give a yellow card to Petr Ceck for the foul against Tottenham in the FA Cup Semi-Final (iii) Stopped play for Didier Drogba being winded by his own fall against FA guidelines.

2016-17

Sent off Aaron Cresswell when neither of his yellow cards were offences. 1st one was for a dive but he was clipped and should have been a penalty. Second was for a shove when he simply outmuscled Zaha with the ball. I added this to the actual article and some jobsworth moron deleted the entire criticisms section saying it was non-neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:678:21D:F100:8CBB:1434:DB29:B70E (talk) 20:05, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit request from YannMoose, 2 October 2011

In section 1.5 Criticisms, please change/alter/add to "[i]n the 23rd minute of the match, Atkinson showed a straight red card to Everton midfielder Jack Rodwell after adjudging him to have committed a professional foul on Liverpool forward Luis Suarez" to indicate why this is a contentious decision and, therefore, why it should be included in the aforementioned section. The decision in question is considered erroneous/suspicious. The present wording merely states that Jack Rodwell was sent-off for a tackle that Martin Atkinson considered a foul - the usual job of a referee. However, the prevailing opinion (based upon video reviews) prove it to be an incorrect decision, deserving of criticism.

I would suggest changing the wording to "... Atkinson showed a straight red card to Everton midfielder Jack Rodwell after erroneously adjudging him to have fouled Liverpool's Luis Suarez." This makes the volatile nature of Atkinson's decision more apparent and qualifies this incident to be included in the Criticism section.

Sources - for justification to edit request, not to be included in any edit

The BBC Sport match report[1] by Phil McNulty says "Rodwell appeared to win the ball cleanly in a midfield challenge with Suarez. The tackle drew an angry response from Liverpool's players... but it was an obvious injustice when the England Under-21 midfielder was shown the red card."

The Sky Sports match report[2] by Graeme Bailey says "[r]eplays showed it was barely a foul and that referee Martin Atkinson had made an error, and with an extra man Liverpool took control of the match" and "Rodwell slid in to challenge Suarez and although seemingly winning the ball with a tackle which did not appear to be dangerous Atkinson immediately brandished a red card."

The Observer match report[3] by Joe Lovejoy[4] says "the dismissal of young Rodwell, midway through the first half, for a ball-winning tackle on Suárez... was not two-footed, dangerous or malicious, and to the non-partisan eye it did not even look like a foul."

The Guardian match report[5] by Andy Hunter[6] says "[t]he match official erred so badly in his decision to dismiss Jack Rodwell for a clean challenge on Luis Suárez on 23 minutes."

The Telegraph match report[7] by Duncan White[8] says "Martin Atkinson produced the red card. There were just 23 minutes played. It had not even been a foul."

The Independent match report[9] by Steve Tongue says "a decision that will leave the trigger-happy referee Martin Atkinson's face the same colour as a Liverpool shirt once he watches a replay; the tackle was not worth even a free-kick."

YannMoose (talk) 23:27, 2 October 2011 (UTC) YannMoose (talk) 23:36, 2 October 2011 (UTC) YannMoose (talk) 23:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I have made an edit which should clarify the situation. --TBM10 (talk) 16:04, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2015

Spelling errors and non-factual information. His name is wrong. Darraghward9898 (talk) 18:13, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not requested any specific changes.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:39, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Why is there no criticisms section in his actual article?

Am wondering this. I added it and some jobsworth deleted for no viable reason. Why are we reduced to putting this on the talk page, when almost every other EPL referee has a criticisms/controversies/incidents section in their article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MorbidStories (talk • contribs) 12:27, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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