Talk:Martin Casado

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In my humble opinion, this article just needs a section called "most attractive qualities" to be complete. Alternately, The Silicon Valley promtional-speak could be turned down a notch.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 20:47, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

@HappyValleyEditor: "Promotional speak?" The article's pretty dry and basic (I used other tech pioneer/founder articles, including the other two Nicira founders, as examples/templates for this article). If you have specific comments, I'll take them into consideration when I do my next round of edits. As for citations - most of the "missing" ones are statements supported by citations I placed later in the article, just a matter of re-org -- I'll take care of that as soon as I can. Dsoltesz (talk) 02:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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Proposal for changes to this article

Hi, I’m an employee at Andreessen Horowitz and I would like to offer some suggestions for improving this article for other editors without a conflict of interest to review. These suggestions concern both improving the structure of the article and addressing some issues with its content (for example, replacing or removing sentences that are unsourced). Thanks very much in advance for your time.

Edit request

1. What I think should be changed: Please replace the current lead paragraph of this article: Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and was a pioneer of software-defined networking, and a co-founder of Nicira Networks. Please replace with: Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and helped develop software-defined networking. Prior to joining Andreessen Horowitz, Casado held roles as a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as co-founder and chief technical officer of Nicira Networks. Why I think it should be changed: This new version includes additional information that reflects important parts of the article but is not in the lead now. 2. What I think should be changed: Please replace the source at the end of the second sentence in the Martin Casado#Early life and education section and remove the third sentence. He received his bachelor's degree from Northern Arizona University in 2000. In 2017, he received an honorary doctorate from the same university. He worked for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory doing computational science followed by work with the intelligence community from December 2000 to September 2006. Please replace with: He received his Bachelor of Science in Computer science from Northern Arizona University in 2000. Why I think it should be changed: Both existing sentences are sourced only to press releases. This new sentence uses a primary source from NAU that is more reliable than a press release and can be used to establish a basic fact like the year of Casado’s undergraduate graduation and what he got his degree in. 3. What I think should be changed: Please replace the fifth sentence in the current Early life and education section. Casado attended Stanford University from 2002 to 2008, earning both his Masters and PhD in computer science. Please replace with: Casado earned his PhD in computer science at Stanford University in May 2007. Why I think it should be changed: The information in the existence sentence is poorly sourced and inaccurate. This replacement removed unimportant details and is based on a reliable source. 4. What I think should be changed: Please remove the seventh sentence in the current Early life and education section: During this period, he co-founded Illuminics Systems with Michael J. Freedman. Why I think it should be changed: This sentence is unsourced and the information is not supported by the next source that appears in the article. 5. What I think should be changed: Please replace the first paragraph in the current Martin Casado#Career section. In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks along with McKeown and Shenker, a Palo Alto, California based company working on network virtualization. Along with McKeown and Shenker, Casado promoted software-defined networking. His Ph.D. work at Stanford University led to the development of the OpenFlow protocol, which was promoting using the term software-defined networking (SDN). McKeown and Shenker co-founded the Open Networking Foundation (ONF) in 2011 to transfer control of OpenFlow to a not-for-profit organization. Please replace with: In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks, a technology company focused on computer networks, together with Nick McKeown and Scott Shenker in Palo Alto, California. Casado served as the chief technical officer of the company. Why I think it should be changed: The existing paragraph contains multiple claims that are not supported by sources, or are simply irrelevant to an article about Casado himself. This paragraph condenses what is said about Casado’s career at Nicira based on reports from reliable press sources. 6. What I think should be changed: Please remove the first and second sentences in the fourth paragraph of the Career section: In 2015 Casado, McKeown and Shenker received the NEC C&C Foundation award for SDN and OpenFlow. In 2015, he was selected for Forbes’ “Next Gen Innovators 2014.” Why I think it should be changed: The first sentence should be removed because it is sourced only to a press release by the awarding body, which is not a valid reliable source. The second one should be removed because it’s gratuitous. 7. What I think should be changed: Please add a new section between “Early life and education” and “Career” entitled “Research”. Research Casado's PhD dissertation at Stanford focused on Software-defined networking (SDN), and how adding software layers to widely-available commercial hardware could be used to make networks viable without requiring proprietary networking hardware or software. Casado’s dissertation research contributed to the later development of OpenFlow, an Open source communications protocol. Why I think it should be changed: The new section provides information about the academic research Casado has done, based on reliable sources. Since the research aspect of his career is different from his roles in the private sector, it merits a separate section to prevent confusion between the two. 8. What I think should be changed: Please add a new section after the Career section called “Awards and Honors”. Also, please move the third paragraph in Career into this new section: Casado was a 2012 recipient of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) Grace Murray Hopper Award for helping create the Software Defined Networking movement. Why I think it should be changed: This section is needed because the honor is not really a part of his private sector career, nor is it part of his research. It’s a significant enough award to have a Wikipedia article. 9. What I think should be changed: Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Early career”: Early career Casado was a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory from 1998 until 2003. While at LLNL, he ran large-scale computer simulations for the United States Department of Defense. Why I think it should be changed: Dividing a Career section into portions dealing with different periods of the subject’s career seems to be the standard structure of most biographical articles about a businessperson. 10. What I think should be changed: Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Nicira and VMWare”, which will consist of the first two paragraphs of the current Career section. Nicira and VMWare In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks, a technology company focused on computer networks, together with Nick McKeown and Scott Shenker in Palo Alto, California. Casado served as the chief technical officer of the company. In July 2012, VMware acquired Nicira for $1.26 billion. Casado was made a fellow at VMWare after the acquisition, where he held the positions of senior vice president and general manager. Why I think it should be changed: The proposed new subsection above also improves the sourcing for the statements made in it to ensure that they accurately reflect the content of each sentence. 11. What I think should be changed: Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Andreessen Horowitz” at the end of the Career section. Also, please move the third and fourth sentences in the fourth and final paragraph of the existing Career section into that new subsection. Andreessen Horowitz Casado left VMware and joined venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz in February 2016 as its ninth general partner. In 2017, he led the firm’s investment in Kong, a software startup . In 2019, Casado joined the board of FiveTran, an SaaS startup, after he led the investment in the company. As of 2023, he was in charge of infrastructure investments at Andreessen Horowitz, focusing on generative AI startups. Why I think it should be changed: This new subsection replaces unreliable sources with better ones, and also includes additional information about Casado’s role with Andreessen Horowitz concerning the firm’s investment in the startup FiveTran. Also removed a sentence from the current version that doesn’t mention Casado. References

Weditor97531 (talk) 17:35, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Reply 27-SEP-2023

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1. Your request makes use of ref name indicators that, when the approved text was implemented and removed text was omitted, generated multiple reference errors because the pertinent ref name indicators had nothing to link to. (You can see this here.)
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3. Previously posted text from your earlier request should not be altered, instead, please submit a new edit request below which solves these issues.

Regards,  Spintendo  21:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Resubmitted proposal for changes to this article

Hi, I’m an employee at Andreessen Horowitz and I would like to offer some suggestions for improving this article for other editors without a conflict of interest to review. These suggestions concern both improving the structure of the article and addressing some issues with its content (for example, replacing or removing sentences that are unsourced). Thanks very much in advance for your time.

Extended content

1. What I think should be changed: Please replace the current lead paragraph of this article: Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and was a pioneer of software-defined networking, and a co-founder of Nicira Networks. Please replace with: Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and helped develop software-defined networking. Prior to joining Andreessen Horowitz, Casado held roles as a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as co-founder and chief technical officer of Nicira Networks. Why I think it should be changed: This new version includes additional information that reflects important parts of the article but is not in the lead now. 2. What I think should be changed: Please replace the source at the end of the second sentence in the Martin Casado#Early life and education section and remove the third sentence. He received his bachelor's degree from Northern Arizona University in 2000. In 2017, he received an honorary doctorate from the same university. He worked for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory doing computational science followed by work with the intelligence community from December 2000 to September 2006. Please replace with: He received his Bachelor of Science in Computer science from Northern Arizona University in 2000. Why I think it should be changed: Both existing sentences are sourced only to press releases. This new sentence uses a primary source from NAU that is more reliable than a press release and can be used to establish a basic fact like the year of Casado’s undergraduate graduation and what he got his degree in. 3. What I think should be changed: Please replace the fifth sentence in the current Early life and education section. Casado attended Stanford University from 2002 to 2008, earning both his Masters and PhD in computer science. Please replace with: Casado earned his PhD in computer science at Stanford University in May 2007. Why I think it should be changed: The information in the existence sentence is poorly sourced and inaccurate. This replacement removed unimportant details and is based on a reliable source. 4. What I think should be changed: Please remove the seventh sentence in the current Early life and education section: During this period, he co-founded Illuminics Systems with Michael J. Freedman. Why I think it should be changed: This sentence is unsourced and the information is not supported by the next source that appears in the article. 5. What I think should be changed: Please replace the first paragraph in the current Martin Casado#Career section. In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks along with McKeown and Shenker, a Palo Alto, California based company working on network virtualization. Along with McKeown and Shenker, Casado promoted software-defined networking. His Ph.D. work at Stanford University led to the development of the OpenFlow protocol, which was promoting using the term software-defined networking (SDN). McKeown and Shenker co-founded the Open Networking Foundation (ONF) in 2011 to transfer control of OpenFlow to a not-for-profit organization. Please replace with: In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks, a technology company focused on computer networks, together with Nick McKeown and Scott Shenker in Palo Alto, California. Casado served as the chief technical officer of the company. Why I think it should be changed: The existing paragraph contains multiple claims that are not supported by sources, or are simply irrelevant to an article about Casado himself. This paragraph condenses what is said about Casado’s career at Nicira based on reports from reliable press sources. 6. What I think should be changed: Please remove the first and second sentences in the fourth paragraph of the Career section: In 2015 Casado, McKeown and Shenker received the NEC C&C Foundation award for SDN and OpenFlow. In 2015, he was selected for Forbes’ “Next Gen Innovators 2014.” Why I think it should be changed: The first sentence should be removed because it is sourced only to a press release by the awarding body, which is not a valid reliable source. The second one should be removed because it’s gratuitous. 7. What I think should be changed: Please add a new section between “Early life and education” and “Career” entitled “Research”. Research Casado's PhD dissertation at Stanford focused on Software-defined networking (SDN), and how adding software layers to widely-available commercial hardware could be used to make networks viable without requiring proprietary networking hardware or software. Casado’s dissertation research contributed to the later development of OpenFlow, an Open source communications protocol. Why I think it should be changed: The new section provides information about the academic research Casado has done, based on reliable sources. Since the research aspect of his career is different from his roles in the private sector, it merits a separate section to prevent confusion between the two. 8. What I think should be changed: Please add a new section after the Career section called “Awards and Honors”. Also, please move the third paragraph in Career into this new section: Casado was a 2012 recipient of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) Grace Murray Hopper Award for helping create the Software Defined Networking movement. Why I think it should be changed: This section is needed because the honor is not really a part of his private sector career, nor is it part of his research. It’s a significant enough award to have a Wikipedia article. 9. What I think should be changed: Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Early career”: Early career Casado was a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory from 1998 until 2003. While at LLNL, he ran large-scale computer simulations for the United States Department of Defense. Why I think it should be changed: Dividing a Career section into portions dealing with different periods of the subject’s career seems to be the standard structure of most biographical articles about a businessperson. 10. What I think should be changed: Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Nicira and VMWare”, which will consist of the first two paragraphs of the current Career section. Nicira and VMWare In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks, a technology company focused on computer networks, together with Nick McKeown and Scott Shenker in Palo Alto, California. Casado served as the chief technical officer of the company. In July 2012, VMware acquired Nicira for $1.26 billion. Casado was made a fellow at VMWare after the acquisition, where he held the positions of senior vice president and general manager. Why I think it should be changed: The proposed new subsection above also improves the sourcing for the statements made in it to ensure that they accurately reflect the content of each sentence. 11. What I think should be changed: Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Andreessen Horowitz” at the end of the Career section. Also, please move the third and fourth sentences in the fourth and final paragraph of the existing Career section into that new subsection. Andreessen Horowitz Casado left VMware and joined venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz in February 2016 as its ninth general partner. In 2017, he led the firm’s investment in Kong, a software startup . In 2019, Casado joined the board of FiveTran, an SaaS startup, after he led the investment in the company. As of 2023, was in charge of infrastructure investments at Andreessen Horowitz, focusing on generative AI startups. Why I think it should be changed: References

This new subsection replaces unreliable sources with better ones, and also includes additional information about Casado’s role with Andreessen Horowitz concerning the firm’s investment in the startup FiveTran. Also removed a sentence from the current version that doesn’t mention Casado. Weditor97531 (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Reply 8-NOV-2023

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Edit request review 8-NOV-2023

Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and helped develop software-defined networking. Prior to joining Andreessen Horowitz, Casado held roles as a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as co-founder and chief technical officer of Nicira Networks  Declined. He received his bachelor's degree from Northern Arizona University in 2000. In 2017, he received an honorary doctorate from the same university. He worked for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory doing computational science followed by work with the intelligence community from December 2000 to September 2006. Clarification needed. Casado earned his PhD in computer science at Stanford University in May 2007. Clarification needed. Please remove the seventh sentence in the current Early life and education section: During this period, he co-founded Illuminics Systems with Michael J. Freedman  Approved. In 2007, Casado co-founded Nicira Networks, a technology company focused on computer networks, together with Nick McKeown and Scott Shenker in Palo Alto, California. Casado served as the chief technical officer of the company  Declined. Please remove the first and second sentences in the fourth paragraph of the Career section: In 2015 Casado, McKeown and Shenker received the NEC C&C Foundation award for SDN and OpenFlow. In 2015, he was selected for Forbes’ “Next Gen Innovators 2014.”  Approved. Casado's PhD dissertation at Stanford focused on Software-defined networking (SDN), and how adding software layers to widely-available commercial hardware could be used to make networks viable without requiring proprietary networking hardware or software. Casado’s dissertation research contributed to the later development of OpenFlow, an Open source communications protocol.  Declined. Casado was a 2012 recipient of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) Grace Murray Hopper Award for helping create the Software Defined Networking movement  Approved. Casado was a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory from 1998 until 2003. While at LLNL, he ran large-scale computer simulations for the United States Department of Defense  Approved. Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Andreessen Horowitz”  Declined. Please add a new subsection to the Career section entitled “Nicira and VMWare”, which will consist of the first two paragraphs of the current Career section.  Declined. ___________

Regards,  Spintendo  04:15, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

I’d like to discuss one of the notes above. It reads:

The claim regarding Casado helping to develop software-defined networking needs to have a reference from a reliable, secondary source. The provided reference is an interview with the subject himself. Needless to say, the article cannot make broad claims regarding the subject's "development" of technology while having those claims referenced by the subject himself. (See WP:BLPRS.) Additionally, the lead section ought to be devoid of references. (See MOS:CITELEAD.)

Here is the text I proposed:

Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and helped develop software-defined networking. Prior to joining Andreessen Horowitz, Casado held roles as a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as co-founder and chief technical officer of Nicira Networks.

I understand there might have some reservations about the piece in Enterprise Network Planet. I have rewritten the lead, as requested, so it omits all citations and have found an independent source, The Economic Times, that supports that Casado created software defined networking. I am requesting a new sentence be added to the body of the article with this information and new source.

Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and helped develop software-defined networking. Prior to joining Andreessen Horowitz, Casado held roles as a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as co-founder and chief technical officer of Nicira Networks.

The Economic Times establishes that he helped to create software-defined networking. The Economic Times story is written by a staff journalist. The story includes information, not from Casado, that verifies the statement that he “helped develop software-defined networking”.

The journalist says; “Martin Casado, the father of software-defined networking…” and “Casado's thesis explored methods to virtualise networking, adding a software layer to off-the rack hardware, freeing customers from the constraints of proprietary hardware and software sold by the likes of companies such as Cisco.”

The following sentence needs to be added to the “Early life and education” section in the body of the article (I suggest replacing the second sentencne in the final paragraph in that section, which is currently sourced to the Enterprise Networking Planet article), in order to add the information above to the lead:

Casado’s doctoral research at Stanford University helped lead to the development of software-defined networking.

With your permission, since I am removing all references from the lead as per your request, may I move the reference names directly to the next instances of them further down on the existing Wikipedia page as needed in order to not break links? This seems more like housekeeping than substantive editing, and I am happy to do this in order to save you the trouble. Is that ok?

Thank you for considering these points. Weditor97531 (talk) 15:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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Revised edit requests for April 2024

Hi, I’m an employee at Andreessen Horowitz and I would like to offer some suggestions for improving this article for other editors to review. I will not directly edit the page as instructed by Wikipedia. WP:COI. I submitted a previous round of requests after which User:Spintendo asked for revisions. Since there’s been no response from Spintendo to the revisions since March 17, I am posting the revised Request Edits, based on Spintendo's feedback, for other editors to review. For any story behind a paywall, I added a supporting quote in the citation.

1. In Early life and education, please replace the first sentence of the second paragraph:

Casado attended Stanford University from 2002 to 2008, earning both his Masters and PhD in computer science.

Please replace with:

Casado studied computer science at Stanford University, earning both his Masters and PhD in 2007.

Why I think it should be changed:

The existing sentence is missing citation for the dates and uses an invalid source - a PDF of Casado’s thesis - to support his degrees. The suggested replacement uses a news story from the Stanford engineering department to state very basic facts about Casado’s education at Stanford , which should be allowable under WP:PRIMARY.

2. In the Career section, please replace the third sentence of the first paragraph:

His Ph.D. work at Stanford University led to the development of the OpenFlow protocol, which was promoting using the term software-defined networking (SDN).

Please replace with:

Casado’s doctoral research at Stanford University helped lead to the development of software-defined networking.

Why I think it should be changed:

The existing sentence is unsupported by a source. The suggested replacement describes Casado’s role in the development of software-defined networking as reported in a reliable news source.

3. In the Career section, please add a sentence to become the new second sentence of the first paragraph:

Casado also served as Nicira’s chief technology officer.

Why I think it should be changed:

Currently, the section is missing details about the role Casado played at Nicira. The suggested addition identifies his role within the company based on a profile of Casado in a reputable news source.

4. Please replace the first paragraph of the Lead:

Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and was a pioneer of software-defined networking, and a co-founder of Nicira Networks.

Please replace with:

Martín Casado is a Spanish-born American software engineer, entrepreneur, and investor. He is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz, and helped develop software-defined networking. Prior to joining Andreessen Horowitz, Casado held roles as a researcher at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and as co-founder and chief technical officer of Nicira Networks.

Why I think it should be changed:

The suggested replacement accurately summarizes key points of Casado’s career that have been established in the body of the article.

5. Please remove the flag asking for additional citations from the top of the Early life and education section:

Why I think it should be changed:

The edits requested above have replaced weak sources with reliable ones and added reliable sources where citations were needed. Similar fixes were made when Spintendo did their review of other REs. Everything should now be reliably cited. Therefore the box is obsolete.

Thank you for reviewing these suggestions.Weditor97531 (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC) Weditor97531 (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: Early life and Career updates in #1 (therefore #5) and #3 make sense. For #2, I've added a different reference to the unsupported statement; adding the proposed language would have quickly become redundant with the previous sentence. For #4, his time at Lawrence Livermore doesn't seem to me to be notable enough for the lead. Pegnawl (talk) 00:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

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