Talk:Martins Dukurs

Place of Birth

Dukurs' place of birth is Latvia due to the following reasons:

• The cited source says so
• The International Civil Aviation Organization has a list of current places of birth here (see Appendix 7, p43), to be used in the passports of living people, and therefore Dukurs' passport would have "Latvia" as his place of birth. Both the ICAO and Dukurs' passport are reliable sources
• Sovereignty never passed to the Soviet Union when they incorporated Latvia in 1940, but remained with Latvia de jure

Therefore I have reverted Edgars2007's edit. --Nug (talk) 19:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Why then not change place of birth for example for Lenka Háječková (SR), or some, I don't know, politician of Czechoslovakia? And for Haralds Blaus (SR)? In 1885 there wasn't any thoughts that sometime there will be such country as Latvia. Sports-Reference of cource is good source (I use it too), but in some cases it isn't the best place where to look up for some information. --Edgars2007 ^{(talk/contribs)} 12:21, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Haralds Blaus isn't a BLP. With respect to Lenka Háječková Czechoslovakia was an internationally recognised sovereign state from 1918 to 1992, regardless of it having a communist government after 1948. On the other hand, the Soviet Union never acquired legal title over Latvia in 1940 despite it having de facto control, thus the Latvian state continued to exist as subjects of international law and remnants of the state continued to exist in the form of the diplomatic service that continued to function. Thus sovereignty remained with the Latvian people and the state was never extinguished. In international law there is a strong presumption for continuity of a state and against extinction. Since Latvia has asserted continuity with the pre-war republic and recently celebrated its 90th anniversary of the Latvian Republic and the majority of the West including the EU recognise this continuity, it then follows that Martins Dukurs was born in Latvia. If you want a source see Lauri Mälksoo's book Illegal Annexation and State Continuity: The Case of the Incorporation of the Baltic States by the USSR published in 2003. The English language version isn't freely available, but if you can read Russian, the Russian language version is here. Kind regards, Nug (talk) 20:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

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