Talk:Marvin Rees

Neutrality

This article must be cleaned up to make it less biased.

Examples below

Saying Marvin Rees is a "Prominent Bristolian" is a matter of opinion.

Phrases like "overwhelmingly popular choice" should not be used. Better to give figures than adjectives.

"Rees has worked in diverse areas throughout his career" is not factual.

Unbiased approach to Bristol Legacy Commission also required. e.g. "which will help a dozen people annually from impoverished backgrounds to reach their aspirations" is wrong tense as Programme was scrapped by council in spring 2012.

Wikipedia is not the place for political stooges - it should be factual an non-partisan.

Taken up with Snowysusan 28/Sep/12 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isitwhatitis (talk • contribs) 10:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Response

I have reviewed the article again. Although I don't agree with all the issues raised and wonder about the bias/lack of neutrality of the user raising them, I have done the following to resolve the issues:

• I have removed the word "prominent"
• I have removed the words "overwhelmingly popular choice"
• There is nothing wrong with diverse - it simply means varied, different... and it is accurate.
• You need to read the article more closely - it is the "Bristol Leadership Program" not the "Bristol Legacy Program" that will help a dozen people annually... If you check the history tab and compare my version and your revision, you will see that it was your own edit that created this confusion. My version read as follows:

A prominent Bristolian, Rees is the Founder and Programme Lead at The Bristol Leadership Programme, a two week program which will help a dozen people annually from impoverished backgrounds to reach their aspirations . He is a member of the Bristol Legacy and a former Director of the Bristol Partnership whose goals are to make Bristol's prosperity sustainable, reduce health and wealth inequality, build stronger and safer communities, and raise the aspirations and achievements of young people and families.

• You are right, the Bristol Legacy Commission was wrapped up in April 2012. The Bristol Leadership Program was founded in May 2012. Your edits to try to fix what you had misread resulted in misleading the reader so I reverted them and, taking your point, made it clear that the Bristol Legacy Commission was no longer in operation.

• And, if it is me you are calling a political stooge, please recall that there are policies here about courtesy. I try very hard to make a positive contribution to Wikipedia. I am a Canadian and have no personal stake or interest in political life in Bristol.

I believe the issue of neutrality has now been addressed. Snowysusan (talk) 16:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

References

Reply

Thanks Snowysusan

I appreciate your time and help with tidying up this article.

I've been reading about the Bristol Leadership Programme and Bristol Legacy Commission today because my knowledge of these were limited beforehand. Thank you for your pointers, however I still think the article is confusing. As far as I can tell from non-political sources local to Bristol, the Leadership Programme was funded through the Legacy Commission and the wording currently doesn't make this association clear.

As far as I can tell, the Leadership Programme has also ended: http://www.bristol.gov.uk/node/2975 . Therefore should "He is the founder" not be "he was the founder"?

Thanks again, itiswhatitis 23:59, 28 September 2012 (GMT)

Leadership program

Thanks for doing further research. I've had a look around as well and it's not clear to me that it's the same program that was funded by Bristol Legacy Commission. It is also not clear to me that the program founded by Rees has ended.

Based on an article at http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2012/05/01/it-takes-a-city/ it looks like the program may not have gotten up and running until July and that it is going to be a yearly program. This is, of course, an interview with Marvin Rees, but I haven't found anything after that date to suggests it will not operate next year. This Bristol Leadership program seems to be, albeit along the same lines as the description given for the Commission's program a seperate initiative.

If one looks again at the Bristol Commission site, it's award for its Bristol Leadership Program indicates that it paid the funds to an organization called ISR. I looked at the ISR website http://www.ccisr.org.uk/ and it doesn't appear to me to have any connection to Rees or his program. Rees' program was founded by him, with the involvement of the Bristol University and the University of the West of England.

Thanks, Susan

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First black mayor

Several news sources, including one used on this page refer to Rees as the first black mayor in the UK or in Europe. This is incorrect as several other black Mayors were elected in the UK, including Allan Glaisyer Minns (elected Mayor of Thetford 1904) and John Archer (elected Mayor of London in 1913). It does appear that Marvin Rees is the 'first directly elected black mayor' in the UK as corrected in the Guardian.

http://www.thetfordtowncouncil.gov.uk/history/thetford-mayors/ https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/blue-plaques/john-richard-archer/ theguardian.com/news/2016/may/24/corrections-and-clarifications

I will remove the sentence 'He became the second ever black mayor in Europe after Rotimi Adebari of Cork, Ireland.[13]' and replace it with a sentence clarifying this common misconception. Mw learner (talk) 10:49, 11 January 2020 (UTC)