Talk:Mary Gardiner Horsford

Latest comment: 1 year ago by RexSueciae in topic Birth (and death) dates

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk22:12, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • ... that Mary Gardiner Horsford was promoted as "one of our sweetest American poetesses" by Godey's Lady's Book? Source: "From J. C. Derby, New York:—INDIAN LEGENDS AND OTHER POEMS. By Mary Gardiner Horsford". Godey's Lady's Book. Vol. 52, no. 4. Philadelphia: Louis A. Godey. April 1856.

Created by RexSueciae (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC).Reply

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing:  
  • Neutral:  
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:  
  • Other problems:   - The quotation from the source says "volume of pearls from the heart-fountain of one of our sweetest American poetesses" -- the article should either use the full quote or use ... in place of the omitted portion (this doesn't affect the quote in the hook, however).
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Everything checks out, except for one small quibble with a quote. I think ALT2 and ALT3 are the most interesting of the hooks. ~huesatlum 02:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

@HueSatLum: good eye! Fixed the quote in the article, thanks for letting me know. I don't have strong opinions on hooks but concur with your suggestion. RexSueciae (talk) 02:59, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Good to go, then. ~huesatlum 04:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Birth (and death) dates

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Hi User:HapHaxion -- I'm not so sure that she was born on the 27th vs the 26th -- her profile at RPI's catalog of manuscripts indicates that she was born on the 26th (a claim repeated on AllPoetry.com which copies the RPI info wholesale). Thing is, there aren't many reliable sources out there that specifically describe her birth date. RPI's page is the only thing I can find (and as a reputable university which maintains a collection of letters and whatnot from her family, I'd think they'd be in the best place to have read through the primary sources to discern her true birth date). All the other sources simply list the birth year. I'm not so sure Wikidata can be trusted on this one, either, the references listed for that one are CERL Thesaurus, Project Gutenberg, and the Online Books Page, but when I look up those respective sources I only see the year. And I don't think the gravestone is reliable, either! Her gravestone, and a number of sources, claim that she died in 1856 -- I'm pretty sure this is wrong, given that all the author profile stuff at CERL Thesaurus etc. list an 1855 death year, there are other reliable sources which give an 1855 death year, and a late 1855 article in The North American Review (cited in article) eulogizes her, which would make one think that she was dead at the time the article was written -- anyways, to make a long story short, I have no real objection to her birth date, but maybe we should note that her gravestone incorrectly lists her death date and let readers draw their own conclusions? RexSueciae (talk) 23:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)Reply