Talk:Mary I (disambiguation)

Requested move 23 June 2020

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The result of the move request was: not moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:15, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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Mary I (disambiguation) → Mary I – Mary I most commonly refers to either the English queen or the Scottish queen. I don't think either is primary. Interstellarity (talk) 16:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. I did a google search for "Mary I" and all of the first 100 hits were about Mary I of England. DrKay (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. The Scottish queen you referenced is widely known as Mary, Queen of Scots. The current arrangement is fine. Calidum 17:09, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose. Mary I invariably refers to the English queen, not Mary, Queen of Scots. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility)#Request_for_comment

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility)#Request_for_comment. Interstellarity (talk) 13:29, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

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Requested move 22 December 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Favonian (talk) 19:55, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

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Mary I (disambiguation) → Mary I – The recently closed discussion on the talk page of Mary I of England has shown that there are other Mary I’s. Therefore, there is no primary topic. Interstellarity (talk) 14:59, 22 December 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Someone searching for "Mary I" on the English Wikipedia is most likely to be searching for the English monarch. The only thing the other RM discussion showed is that there are some editors who want to use the "of country" title styling on every monarch article for the sake of consistency. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per Rreagan007. Unlimitedlead (talk) 14:29, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support the Scottish one has 145,125 views compared with only 138,129[[1]] for the English one. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:47, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

  I think the staggering amount of views Mary, Queen of Scots has compared to Mary I of England is because one is a tragic and romanticized protagonist featured in a wide range of popular media, while the other was a middle-aged Catholic fanatic who got overshadowed by her sister and possibly was the namesake of the most disgusting drink on the planet. All that is to say that the amount of views achieved by Mary, Queen of Scots has nothing to do with this proposed move because those views almost certainly come from people typing "mary queen of scots", not "mary i". Unlimitedlead (talk) 19:34, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

  "The Scottish one" isn't commonly known as "Mary I" in English, she is commonly known as "Mary, Queen of Scotts". Historians centuries ago disambiguated these two for us, so we don't have to worry about this. Rreagan007 (talk) 01:17, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

  Agreed. Unlimitedlead (talk) 04:00, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nomination and Crouch, Swale. There are eight women listed upon the Mary I (disambiguation) page, while the Queen Mary dab page listed at the bottom, under "See also", lists 69 bulleted entries. As for the two top-tier holders of the name, one was primarily known as "Mary Queen of Scots" while the other was primarily known as "Mary Tudor" or "Bloody Mary". Mary Tudor/Bloody Mary can be of course listed as the likeliest search subject at the top of the Mary I dab page without, however, becoming that page's primary topic. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:48, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support. Mary, Queen of Scots can be considered as Mary I. Shwcz (talk) 07:05, 26 December 2022 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE – robertsky (talk) 05:24, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
• Leaning oppose. Even on the disambiguation page, very few of the common names actually contain both the name "Mary" and the numeral "I". BD2412 T 16:30, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

note: Wikipedia:WikiProject English Royalty was already notified, I notified Wikipedia:WikiProject Netherlands. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. The English queen is the clear primary topic for the term "Mary I". Mary, Queen of Scots, is not commonly referred to as Mary I. Neither are any of the others on the list. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:48, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

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Move discussion in progress

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