Talk:Mary Wittenberg/GA1
GA Review
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If you have any questions or concerns about this review, let me know. I will be watching this page, so if you have any comments this is the best place to communicate. Thanks, -Mitico (talk, contribs) 16:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars etc.:
- No edit wars etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Note - I added more to the infobox photo caption.
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Initial comments
editMy initial impression is that this article is short, but well-referenced. I will be especially concerned with GA criteria 3a (broad in coverage). There are no deadlinks or links to disambiguous pages.
Couple quick items to start:
- Since this is a biography adding the persondata template per WP:DATA would be helpful.
I am in the process of trying to get her birthdate. I will take care of this when I receive it (hopefully I will)- Got it - added to infobox, category, and added persondata template
- Wittenberg is her married name. Her maiden name should be mentioned in the article too.
- Gosh, I completely missed this. Thanks.
I will add it when I get the dob, since as far as I can tell, a good way to add it is with the dob, like it is on Priscilla Presley (I can't find a wp:mos guidelines about maiden names.)- I added it per wp:mos for bio
- Gosh, I completely missed this. Thanks.
- I will follow up with a detail prose & reference review.
Detailed review
edit- Lead
- programs that draw over 300,000 yearly participants. The lead should not introduce content that is not in the body.
- Added to 4th para in NYRR section
- The lead focuses entirely on here NYRR work. Consider mention her running career and being a lawyer.
- I added a bit about her winning the Marine Corps Marathon.
- Early
- played sports that her father coached, including baseball and basketball. is very close to the source played the sports that her father coached — baseball, softball, and basketball. -- restructure to avoid over-similarity.
- Done.
- She attended Canisius College, where she was on a champion West Side Rowing Club team, -the source says she was a member of west side prior to college.
- Thanks for catching that. Changed.
- Should cheerleading be mentioned?
- Included.
- NYRR
- first female partner for her law firm. - do you have another source for this? The source says first on her "team" -- not necessarily in the firm's history.
- Great catch, I misread that.
- In 2005, Wittenberg -short paragraph should be worked into another.
- Done.
- similar to NASCAR's Sprint Cup -is this cited, or an original analogy
- Actually, this ref compares it to NASCAR's cup, with the cumulative standings [1]. Note that Sprint merged with Nextel, so the name changed:
- Wittenberg: We’re introducing for our sport a Nextel Cup approach: Who is going to be the best marathoner over a two-year period? That requires consistency: performing at the top of your game over several of the individual events. It’s a nice combination of some of the best of what several other sports have
- Actually, this ref compares it to NASCAR's cup, with the cumulative standings [1]. Note that Sprint merged with Nextel, so the name changed:
- During this event, Ryan Shay passed away while competing. -I think the significance of this could be explained at little more.
- I included that he was a collegiate star and that he died of a heart attack. I changed the ref to one that has the heart attack cause
- Personal
- There seems to be enough available to expand this section a little (couple sentences). My recommendation would be to write about her family/personal stuff, then finalize the article with her personal running information. Since she no longer runs marathons, I assume the the 18/20 races are not marathons. Please confirm.
- Yes, she no longer runs marathons. I included something about that. I did a bit more about her training, and an interesting bit about her running pre-dawn on the biggest NYRR day - when the NYC marathon occurs.
Overall Some minor items to be resolved. All & all, a nice article on an interesting subject. She is a semi-public figure so there is not a lot of information coverage of her. I am putting on hold. If you have any questions let me know. Mitico (talk, contribs) 19:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Great feedback. I appreciate it. This is my first time in this process. and I look forward to more. This puts the "C" in collaborative!
I will take care of the rest of the stuff when I get her dob.- DOB and maiden name are put in. Please let me know if there's anything else to take care of. Thanks again for your excellent feedback. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 00:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
GA Pass - After reviewing the changes and re-reading the article I believe this article meets all the criteria of a good article. Great work Omarcheeseboro! Thank you for doing your part, and congrats on your first GA. Any questions, let me know. -Mitico (talk, contribs) 14:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Mitico. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 15:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)