Talk:Mashpee Nine: A Story of Cultural Justice

Requested move 9 September 2018

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move, therefore, not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 20:59, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

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Mashpee Nine: A Story of Cultural Justice → Mashpee Nine – Per WP:SUBTITLE 142.160.89.97 (talk) 00:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 22:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Hhkohh (talk) 01:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose Seems a common name Hhkohh (talk) 01:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@Hhkohh: How do you reconcile your position with our book-specific guideline, WP:SUBTITLE, which states:

Usually, a Wikipedia article on a book (or other medium, such as a movie, TV special or video game) does not include its subtitle in the Wikipedia page name, per WP:CONCISE. The only exception to that is short article titles, for disambiguation purposes.

142.160.89.97 (talk) 01:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

WP:SUBTITLE is not a policy, just a guideline, see also WP:COMMONNAME and other related policy Hhkohh (talk) 09:43, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

• Support I see no issue with the requested move, and it abides by the given guideline. -- Alex^TW 03:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
• Support it seems that the term "Mashpee Nine" originates with the book and was not in common use to refer to the subject of the book beforehand. power~enwiki (π, ν) 04:53, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. There's the Mashpee Nine themselves, an actual group of people. Then there's this book, "Mashpee Nine: A Story of Cultural Justice". ANd there's also the documentary "Mashpee Nine: The Beat Goes On". If you refashion the article to cover all these topics (which makes sense since they're interlinked), then there would be a case to move. But right now it's only about the book.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:00, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose cited guideline does not apply as disambiguation and long title are clearly beneficial to readers here, and in cases without (book) WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT works for short titles. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose - guideline cited was based on a flawed assumption. Books and other media items are usually referred to the first time by the full long name and then for brevity, just continue using the short version. --Gonnym (talk) 21:58, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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