Talk:Massachusetts Route 8A
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Split proposal
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The two Route 8As are entirely unrelated and should be covered in separate articles. – TMF 16:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- I agree that this should be split. It might be worth creating a split out Massachusetts Route 8 article and then discussing the "U" segment of 8A there as a former alignment. A separate Massachusetts Route 8A article (this article) should focus on the "L" segment and I would even go further and suggest merging this with Vermont Route 8A. --Polaron | Talk 17:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- I am against the idea of a split. We have many roads with unrelated segments united into one article, such as Maryland Route 675. In addition, we seem to be in favor of the idea of merging the two separate MA 3A's into one article. Dough4872 22:40, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- If the two segments of MD 675 are unrelated, then they should be split as well. Segmented routes should use one article only if the segments are related, specifically in terms of history. If writing about the segments results in a history that has no common points anywhere, then the article should unquestionably be split. As for comparing Route 8A to Route 3A...that's a blatant apples-to-oranges comparison. – TMF 23:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- The two segments of MD 675 are numbered as they are both former alignments of US 13 that were bypassed. There are several MD route numbers that are specifically assigned to former alignments of other routes. Other examples are Maryland Route 7 and Maryland Route 144, which are composed of numerous suffixed segments of US 40. It would not make sense to have a separate article for each segment of MD 7 or MD 144. The case of the two MD 8As is similar to MD 7, MD 144, or MD 675 as it is given to segments of road related to one route (MA 8). Dough4872 23:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- You just killed your own point there. "The two segments of MD 675 are numbered as they are both former alignments of US 13 that were bypassed." - There's your related history. As far as I'm aware, the two Route 8As don't have any. – TMF 00:01, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- They're actually not directly related. The "U" segment is a former alignment. The "L" segment is related to VT 8A rather than directly to MA 8. --Polaron | Talk 00:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- If this is truly the case, MA 8A should become a dab page with the MA 8A U routing having its own article and MA 8A L being combined with VT 8A into Route 8A (Massachusetts–Vermont). The latter should have a hatnote linking to MA 8A U. Dough4872 00:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- The U segment probably doesn't deserve its own article. It could easily be covered as part of a newly split off MA 8 article.
- That would be a good idea. Dough4872 04:17, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- The U segment probably doesn't deserve its own article. It could easily be covered as part of a newly split off MA 8 article.
- If this is truly the case, MA 8A should become a dab page with the MA 8A U routing having its own article and MA 8A L being combined with VT 8A into Route 8A (Massachusetts–Vermont). The latter should have a hatnote linking to MA 8A U. Dough4872 00:32, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- The two segments of MD 675 are numbered as they are both former alignments of US 13 that were bypassed. There are several MD route numbers that are specifically assigned to former alignments of other routes. Other examples are Maryland Route 7 and Maryland Route 144, which are composed of numerous suffixed segments of US 40. It would not make sense to have a separate article for each segment of MD 7 or MD 144. The case of the two MD 8As is similar to MD 7, MD 144, or MD 675 as it is given to segments of road related to one route (MA 8). Dough4872 23:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- If the two segments of MD 675 are unrelated, then they should be split as well. Segmented routes should use one article only if the segments are related, specifically in terms of history. If writing about the segments results in a history that has no common points anywhere, then the article should unquestionably be split. As for comparing Route 8A to Route 3A...that's a blatant apples-to-oranges comparison. – TMF 23:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
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