Talk:MasterChef (American TV series) season 8
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Names
editThe official Fox press release gives Dino Luciano Ignacio. A California newspaper gives us Dino Luciano. It could be argued that Fox, which would have contracts and releae forms from each contestant, is more likely to have the correct name. But when two equally reliable sources, such as Fox and a newspaper, differ on names (or birth dates, or place of birth), it is POV to pick one over the other so we include both. See Mariah Carey, Jessica Chastain, Mick Mars and other entries. --Tenebrae (talk)
- A corrected press release was sent by Fox and is available on the main MasterChef website on Fox.com. I have updated the cite for the source to reflect this. His name was inadvertently typod in the first release. - SanAnMan (talk) 13:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @SanAnMan: With all due respect, we cannot just claim that there's an "updated press release" somewhere on the MasterChef website. This is a BLP issue — we need to link to it. All editors making claims are responsible for supplying their own WP:VERIFY citing in the article. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:13, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Tenebrae: if you look you'll see I did link to the updated press release. The link provided is to the press release on Fox's website which lists the corrected name. Believe me, I've written and edited enough articles to know what BLP is. - SanAnMan (talk) 23:34, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @SanAnMan: My apologies; it wasn't immediately clear to me, and you are correct. In this case, we no longer need the Valley News footnote, which created confusion since that was the footnote by the name itself. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Tenebrae: No worries, I've made my fair share of bad reverts myself. I tried to be clear on the cite change in the summary and I should have removed the extra cite myself. In the end I firmly believe we are after the same goal -- a thorough and accurate article. Cheers. - SanAnMan (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @SanAnMan: My apologies; it wasn't immediately clear to me, and you are correct. In this case, we no longer need the Valley News footnote, which created confusion since that was the footnote by the name itself. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Tenebrae: if you look you'll see I did link to the updated press release. The link provided is to the press release on Fox's website which lists the corrected name. Believe me, I've written and edited enough articles to know what BLP is. - SanAnMan (talk) 23:34, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @SanAnMan: With all due respect, we cannot just claim that there's an "updated press release" somewhere on the MasterChef website. This is a BLP issue — we need to link to it. All editors making claims are responsible for supplying their own WP:VERIFY citing in the article. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:13, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Elimination Table Format and Key Changes
editI'm going to copy this information to all of the seasons for MasterChef. After thinking about this for some time, the Elimination Table and its associated key has been revamped. This was due to the fact that there were selections for whether or not a contestant was the last one saved or not in challenges. Whether or not a contestant is saved first, last, or anywhere in between is completely irrelevant and trivial. It is done strictly for the purposes of creating drama. All that matters is whether or not a contestant advanced or not, and if they were in the bottom or not. Thus, the former Pink "Low" for being a bottom entry but not last to advance has been eliminated altogether.
In addition, after talking this factor other with another editor, I realized that the Pressure Tests are nothing more than another Elimination Challenge, again, just with more drama added to it. So if a contestant gets into a Pressure Test, it should be treated the same as all the other Elimination Challenges, and if a contestant falls into the "bottom x" from a Pressure Test, they should be marked in the table as an Orange "Low", the same as any other Elimination Challenge. Not all Pressure Tests result in a "bottom x" (though most do nowadays) so if they don't announce a bottom, we can just use the PT code for those, and we can also continue to use the PT code for when a contestant gets into a Pressure Test and survives without being announced as a "bottom x".
Bottom line: Pink Low = gone. Orange Low = bottom of any elimination challenge including Pressure Tests. Purple Low = bottom of a Team Challenge.
Feel free to reply/chat me with any other questions about this. - SanAnMan (talk) 17:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)