Talk:Matched trilogy

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that the Matched Trilogy was inspired by a high school prom? Source:

Created by Salem(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC).

• Comment hi there! I'm a little concerned about the hook—it could be seen as promotional if all we say about it is that it's a bestseller. Plus, we want to entice people with something cool about the hook. So how about: theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 22:35, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that Ally Condie's dysptopian novel Matched Trilogy draws from Condie's childhood as a Mormon?

• It's been a few weeks, so I'm going to take the liberty of assuming that User:theleekycauldron isn't going to do this review. So, I will:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral: - y As a rather popular series, I'm surprised that the article doesn't include any comments from book reviewers. As is, it's focused on the plot and themes, giving the impression of a sympathetic article, rather than a neutral one. Take a look at Matched#Reception for an example of reviews. Are there any book reviews covering the whole series? Those would be ideal for this article, so as not to be redundant with the articles for each book. If not, then citing one or two representative ones for each book would be better than nothing.
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems: - I see the hook is backed by [1], which is fine, though it would have been nice if that were pointed out in the "Source:" section here. However the fact only appears in the article lead, not in the body, and per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section, "Apart from basic facts, significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article." I suggest moving that paragraph into the body, under Themes for example.

QPQ: None required.

Overall: I see you're a new contributor? Nice, glad to meet you! Thank you so much for your contribution! I was at first puzzled by User:theleekycauldron's comment about the hook, above, but see you changed it. That's all right, but it's usually better to leave in text that someone else has responded to, possibly mark it by striking through it, or adding a new variant ALT2 or something. For future. Also, would you be interested in combining theleekycaldron's suggestion with yours, something like

ALT3: ... that Ally Condie's dystopian Matched Trilogy was inspired by a high school prom?

The dystopia/prom contrast seems more "hooky" to me. But that's debatable, if you don't agree, then your proposed hook is fine as is. GRuban (talk) 17:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

GRuban Thanks for the review! I like the addition of "dystopian." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salem(BYU) (talk • contribs) 21:36, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

ALT4, then:

ALT4: ... that Ally Condie's dystopian Matched trilogy was inspired by a high school prom?

4, because I see you renamed the article with a lower case T. I also moved the prom bit into themes as suggested above, and made a couple of minor tweaks to the article. Hope they're all right. --GRuban (talk) 21:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Tweaked ALT4 to T:DYK/P5