Talk:Materialization

Removal of "The Materialization Process"

I have removed a whole load of text about "The Materialzation Process" from this page. First, this is a disambiguation article. Second, the content was not only completely unsourced, but verging upon the incomprehensible. Uncle G 16:00, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Other meanings

This is not my field - but I was trying to comprehend a usage in a text and found two additional meanings for dematerialisation, which someone might like to follow up:

1. http://www.acrr.org/resourcities/dematerialisation/what_dematerialisation.htm - the use of less materials - Source: UNEP, Consumption opportunities - Strategies for change - A report for decision-makers, Geneva, 2001 See also http://www2.vrom.nl/pagina.html?id=7408 and http://www.ch4.org.uk/glossary.php/Dematerialisation?term=&start=30&viewby=term

2. https://www.karvy.com/dp/faqs/dematerialisation.htm - a process in which you can convert physical share certificates into electronic shares. See also http://www.cdslindia.com/FAQ/demat.htm

(The term demateralisation brings the wiki user here)

Flit 11:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Science fiction

Materialization (science fiction) just redirects right to teleportation, but that's not always how it's used in sci-fi; there are some examples of materialization of matter from energy, for instance the replicator (Star Trek), the Grails from the Riverworld novels, in the tv series Ark II, one of the Tom Swift books from the '80s, and probably a lot more that I've forgotten. It deserves its own separate entry, I think. -- Noclevername 01:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I actually slightly agree. It appears that the science fiction article was merged into the teleportation article. I haven't yet checked the history, but you might find history of a discussion there. -Verdatum (talk) 01:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Scanner (Code Lyoko) - also future merge possibility

I removed this link as it completely failed to explain how the term can be confused with Materialization. With that, since the science fiction article no longer exists, this no longer needs to be a disambiguation page. Barring disagreement, I'll propose reorganization after a few days. -Verdatum (talk) 01:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Strange Bias in Language Concerning Sci-Fi Use of Term

There seem to be many artifacts of the merger and the personal feelings of particular editors in this disambiguation page, leading to confusing language, most notably:

"Replicator (Star Trek), said to be able to materialize food etc.,"

If the consensus is that the heading "In science fiction" is insufficient to indicate the fictional nature of the subject matter, surely we can come up with some suitable way to describe the device in question. Star Trek is a work of intentional, self-professed fantasy, it isn't folklore, mythology, first hand account or any other purported reality. The Replicators in the various incarnations of Star Trek DO materialize food and other matter; the phrase "said to be able to" both calls into question that of which there should be no doubt, and gives the impression of alleged or claimed factual existence in the mind of the reader. This is truly bizarre. We don't say that Superman is said to be an extraterrestrial, we rightfully state that he is a fictional extraterrestrial; the existence of Superman stories, their fictional nature and the origin of the eponymous character are neither in doubt, nor hearsay-we have the proper sources. Likewise and similarly, even if it is missing a few required in-line citations, the article on Star Trek Replicators is needlessly extensive and appropriately supported; the device, its fictional nature, and function are not in question. The rumored water-fueled car endemic to conspiracy theory, purported to be suppressed by the Automobile Industry is "said to be able to run on water." I'd not make a point of this minor anti-SciFi sentiment ruining our neutral bias and correct language use, but it is symptomatic of a larger problem, affecting many more important Wikipages. 71.235.31.212 (talk) 18:31, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Materialization (paranormal) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 22:15, 17 May 2018 (UTC)