Talk:Matt Gaetz sexual misconduct allegations
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Focus of article
editSince this is a breaking investigation, be judicious in adding content. Nirvanaoreilly (talk) 03:12, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Hit job
editThis is really too much. Very little is known, other than several news articles that have appeared in the past 8 hours. It's pretty much all speculation, and this should be deleted until solid blp sourcing is avialble. --- Possibly (talk) 03:57, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Agreed. ‑‑Volteer1 (talk) 07:07, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- The topic of this article is not a random piece of gossip that can simply be dismissed by claiming it is a "hit job," it is an investigation being conducted by the US Department of Justice into whether a US congressman has committed the sex trafficking of a minor. Coverage in this article (as in the press, where it is a major story) balances both the serious allegations and the denials by the alleged sexual predator. The investigation which this article is about is very much a real and notable subject and therefore the article is completely appropriate. UrielAcosta (talk) 12:52, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- this article should stay; investigations like this usually almost always go somewhere SRD625 (talk) 13:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- There is no official confirmation that there is even an investigation.--- Possibly (talk) 16:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- this article should stay; investigations like this usually almost always go somewhere SRD625 (talk) 13:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- I am in the middle. This story was broken by confidential sources, so the investigation could either be valid or a political hit job in itself. Either way, I would argue that this subject has been given enough public interest to merit its own article. But, I do want to stress that I agree with Possibly that the fact there is no official confirmation on the investigation yet leaves doubt as to not only the validity of the claim, but also the motive behind it. We should be prepared to present whatever happens in this story without any bias. --- Yy958 (talk) 23:25, 31 March 2021 (CDT)
- it's going to be deleted, see the AfD.--- Possibly (talk) 04:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I am in the middle. This story was broken by confidential sources, so the investigation could either be valid or a political hit job in itself. Either way, I would argue that this subject has been given enough public interest to merit its own article. But, I do want to stress that I agree with Possibly that the fact there is no official confirmation on the investigation yet leaves doubt as to not only the validity of the claim, but also the motive behind it. We should be prepared to present whatever happens in this story without any bias. --- Yy958 (talk) 23:25, 31 March 2021 (CDT)
I wonder if the title of the article should be re-worded. Maybe "Matt Gaetz Child Trafficking Scandal", or something that indicates a criminal investigation is ongoing?
- Agreed - There is pretty much no good reason for this page to exist given these allegations haven't been proven yet, Gaetz has not been indicted and there is already a section on the Matt Gaetz wikipedia page on this. Still very much speculatory and in the case that the allegations are false theres no point of a page for it. If they end up being true then theres an argument to be made for having this page, but not right now. ~~ Anish631
- should likely remove the word "child" from title, once this passes AfD. "Sex scandal" is informative enough. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 2 April 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: I moved this to Matt Gaetz sexual misconduct allegations, per BLP and other existing titles at the category that was linked to. We cannot have "child sex scandal" as the title when there is no conviction and this could not wait seven days. Fences&Windows 00:55, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
(blanked) → Matt Gaetz sex trafficking scandal – The offense he's being accused of is sex trafficking, so such a title would make more sense. Per discussion above. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 21:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Move to Matt Gaetz scandal This is a rapidly evolving story, and it's not inconceivable that there will be more to it than the sex trafficking allegations. "Matt Gaetz scandal" is recognizable, and won't restrict the scope of the article as events unfold. A look at Category:Political sex scandals in the United States shows precedent for this type of title. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 23:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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A discussion is taking place to address the redirect [redacted]. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 3 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MelanieN (talk) 17:58, 3 April 2021 (UTC)