Talk:Matt Groening/Archive 1

Archive 1

Noobs

I have so much respect for this guy I will only vandalise the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.108.125 (talk) 14:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

5. It is stable.

   

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

   a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

7. Overall:

   a Pass/Fail:

• 1 (a) and (b) Prose and Structure:

1. He made his first professional cartoon sale to the avant-garde Wet magazine in 1978 (the strip, entitled “Forbidden Words”, appeared in the September/October issue), and by 1980 the strip had become so popular in the underground that it was picked up by the Los Angeles Reader, where he also delivered papers as well as doing some editing and paste-up. very long sentence. Split it into two.
2. He described trying to get the show on the air as "by far the worst experience of my grown-up life." --- This quote needs to be written as "by far the worst experience of [his] grown-up life" in order to make sense of the sentence.
3. Seeing as how you have only one award listed, do you really think it deserves its own section?

• 2 (a) References: Outright fail here. This is a biography of a living person, and as such, is held to a much higher standard in terms of citations. For instance,

1. birthdate needs citation
2. On the way there, his car broke down in the fast lane of the Hollywood Freeway.
3. He found work for a time as a chauffeur and "biographer" for an unsuccessful 88-year-old B-Western movie director.
4. Fearing the loss of ownership rights, Groening decided to create something new. Reportedly, he designed the look of the Simpson family in only fifteen minutes.
5. Comedy Central commissioned 13 new episodes to be aired in 2008.
6. The couple divorced in 1999 after thirteen years of marriage

are just a few of the things that need to be taken care of. Be very careful with articles about living people. It can get ugly.

• 2 (b) Inline citations:

1. Citations come after punctuation. I saw a couple here and there that are misplaced. On preview: I noticed that an editor took care of this. I change to a pass on this criterion.

• 2 (d) WP:OR:

1. It is questionable whether Marge’s sister Patty’s name comes from Groening’s sister or if it is a coincidence. --- Things like this (especially unreferenced) are examples of original research. Take them out. Avoid weasel words at all costs.

Because my only real reason to fail the article is because of its egregious lack of references, I'm going to fail the article and list it at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_GA/Nominations. After including some references, you can renominate it. Just to drive the point home, I want you to remember to be careful when writing an article about a living person. Cite everything. This article is basically GA quality otherwise, just address the points I made above. Good luck! –King Bee ^{(T • C)} 18:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

• Excellent. I have reread the awards section, and it makes a lot more sense to me now. I like what you've done, good work on citing everything so quickly. I will now pass the article.–King Bee ^{(T • C)} 20:19, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Just to add, Groening confirms the chauffeur/biographer thing (though he says the guy was 93) in an A.V. Club interview; it's on page 2; here's the link: http://www.avclub.com/content/node/47771/2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.53.58.159 (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

GA Sweeps (Pass)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I commented out one uncited fact, but it should be reinserted if a citation can be found. The lead would also benefit from adding some more information about the "Personal life" and "Other pursuits" section. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Cheers, CP 01:25, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

“Democrat Party?”

I tried to edit the page. The Democratic Party is referred to improperly and “Democrat” is used improperly as an adjective. There’s an extraneous “of” in that same sentence. In the “Politics” section. Robertprather68 (talk) 04:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Seconded. 73.71.251.64 (talk) 20:01, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done: I went ahead and copy edited that section as a whole, as it was a bit of a mess. Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 00:07, 4 January 2021 (UTC)