Talk:Maximillian Arturo
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Regents Professor
editI think the link is incorrect. Regents is an award. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trentc (talk • contribs) 18:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Arturo's son
editIt is stated in the Article, "Christina died of a brain aneurysm when she was 27, but not before she and Arturo had a son." Do we know that Arturo's son's mother is Christina Fox? It seems very likely given Arturo's age, the age Christina Fox died, Quinn's age, and the fact that Arturo's son reminds him of Quinn, however I don't think it was ever made clear in the show who Arturo's son's mother is. Q0 15:50, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
One L or two?
editI see both 'Maximilian' and 'Maximillian' in various Sliders pages. The subtitles in "Summer of Love" have two L's, but on his driver's license it looks like there is only one L. It would be nice to sync up the spellings with an official source. -- Mike 10:12, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)
Wrong Arturo
editThe article mentions that Tracy Tormé had left some clues in other episodes as to which Arturo slid. Is there a list of possible clues anywhere? I've just seen in the episode "Double Cross", Season 3, Episode 2 that Logan St. Clair says that their world's Arturo 'couldn't wait' for the sliding process to be perfected and attempted to slide anyway, which killed him. To this, the sliding Arturo says "He did?.... How odd" which supports the fact that he's not the Earth Prime Arturo since the imposter Arturo was said to have chickened out of sliding at the last moment because he didn't think it was safe. He was only happy to slide after he saw that it was in fact safe when the original four landed on his world in Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome. The other sign is that in Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome, after the four slide away and the vortex closes, the Arturo left behind is heard to say "Oh God...".Spanky Deluxe 14:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
It should be noted, however, that, unlike most episodes of Sliders, the events of Post Traumatic Slide Disorder are not depicted from a 3rd person omniscient viewpoint, but rather are representative of what is being told to the psychiatrist in the episode and since Rembrandt, who is relating the story, had already slid by the time those words would have been uttered, the testimony is suspect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.225.45 (talk) 00:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Why is the following paragraph considered opinion? "In "In Dino Veritas", which follows Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome in production order (though not broadcast order), the Sliders are seen leaving a world in which they are required to wear a "Truth Collar", a device that sends an electric shock to the wearer whenever he or she lies. The episode in relation to the mix-up has come up as a centre of issue in clarifying the matter. Many believe that if it does indeed take place after "Post-Traumatic Slide Syndrome", it would be difficult for Arturo's double to get by on such a world without having to lie to the others, however this only applies if they asked him if he was "their" Arturo." Everything being said in it is fact, there is no interpretation. The truth collar? Fact. Arturo's difficulty to avoid a direct question on his identity? Fact. The unclear order of the episodes? Fact. I see no opinion there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.184.66.57 (talk) 22:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
- Good catch on the Double Cross episode; I never heard that one before. I also added some info on the "Summer of Love" vs. "The Guardian" discrepancy, lending further credence to the fact that the wrong Arturo slid. The "In Dino Veritas" episode was originally intended to air right after "Post Traumatic Slide Syndrome," and the truth collars do throw everything in a loop! However, there are two things to keep in mind: on Truth World, the sliders took a break from one another and weren't together until the very end of the episode. Secondly, from the very beginning of the dinosaur world to when the collars came off, the focus of the episode is tightly on Rembrandt, Wade and the Professor. Since the question never came up, it is also a good explanation for why the sliders never fingered this Professor as the imposter. But hey, you never know, he might have been the right one after all. :)
In the episode "post traumatic slide syndrome" the Maximilian that was chained up makes reference to wades journal being serialized even though it was impossible for him to know about that if he had been chained up before the news of their sliding broke. Clonefreak1 (talk) 05:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
The fansite Earth Prime has an interview with Tracy Tormé where Tormé says his original intent/writing was that the wrong Arturo slid. I don't know the reputation of the site, it may not meet standards as a source. Brlancer (talk) 05:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Exodus 2
editHi! Somehow I do not understand, why Arturo shows up in The Last of Eden, although he seemed to be shot by Rickman in "Exodus 2"... Did they do time travel or so in "The Breeder" or "Sole Survivors" (I missed them somehow... my local broadcast people skipped them possibly...?)? Shouldnt we mention that in the article? --Homer Landskirty 11:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Oh... It seems like it is a common practice to mix the episodes (see the infobox in the article), so that they r not broadcasted in chronological order... --Homer Landskirty 14:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
He did die in "Exodus 2". The appearance is due to the fact that "The Last Of Eden" is based out of Quinn and Wade's memories. Ph34 (talk) 17:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Speculation and my opinions
editBecause Torme intentionally left it vague on which Arturo was which, a little bit of note on fan reaction is relevant to the article. But I think the article could use a rewrite to tone down the fan speculation (and a rewrite in general). Lots42 17:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Quotes
editAdded quotes
Wrong Arturo and speculation
editI'm sorry but I had to remove the following content from the article because I believe this constitutes original research. Although much of the content is factual information of what happens in the show, it also forms conclusions, and thus violates WP:SYN. If the conclusions can be cited with reliable sources it can be added back to the article. Q0 (talk) 08:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- A possible clue could exist in the Professor's changing familiarity with football: in the Season 1 episode "Summer of Love," Quinn throws a rock at the Professor to kill a bug crawling up his back, after assuring him that he was a football quarterback in high school. After he misses and strikes the Professor in the head, the Professor asks what kind of offense Quinn ran. When Quinn reveals that he ran a wishbone offense, the Professor shouts, "Now you tell me!" In the Season 3 episode "The Guardian," on the other hand, the possibly wrong Professor reveals that he has just seen his first football game, and mixes up football terminology (he calls a "team" a "squad"), which Rembrandt calls him on. It is noteworthy that Tracy Tormé personally penned both "Summer of Love" and "The Guardian."
- You don't need to apologize for upholding Wikipedia standards; I merely added some information that I thought was useful. Since you seem to be the unofficial vanguard for all things Sliders here, perhaps you can make use of what I learned in a way that doesn't conflict with the rules established here. I found the information I put in the article here, by Matt Hutaff of www.earthprime.com:
- http://earthprime.com/episode-guide/The-Guardian-27.html
- If there is some way to use the site as a reference, then maybe the info can go back in. Otherwise, no problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallbridge (talk • contribs) 14:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like a fansite, which would be invalid. Lots42 (talk) 19:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Wrong Professor information
editI put some more wrong Professor information in; I hope it is to everyone's liking.
Tracy Tormé seems to have finally given an unambiguous opinion on the Wrong Arturo debate here; www.earthprime.com/tracy-torme/tracy-torme-2009.html. This seems to be a fan site, but it also seems to be a real interview with the real Tormé, and I'm not sure what the citation rules are on that, or indeed how to put citations into articles, so I haven't updated the article to reflect this, but if it's possible for it to go in, it would be good if it did. 92.1.183.181 (talk) 07:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)