Talk:May 2024 Al-Mawasi refugee camp attack

Latest comment: 7 days ago by Guy Haddad 1 in topic Edit request - update casualties


Edit request - update casualties

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Hi, in the info box please change

Deaths 21+ Palestinian civilians
Injured 64 Palestinian civilians

to (or something else with similar meaning)

Deaths 21+ Palestinian (including 13 civilians)
Injured 64 Palestinian

as none of the sources use the term "civilians" (nor they imply it) for all the casualties. The sources are reuters[1] and aljazeera[2]. Other sources state that 13 out of 21 people killed were civilian women and girls. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 12:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

The first is an assumption without good sourcing, but so is the second. Over 90% of the adult males in the Gaza Strip are civilians. There were more than half a million men and fewer than 40,000 militants at the start of the war, since then Israel claim to have killed over 15,000 militants, if that's accurate then adult men would be closer to 95% by now. The number of civilians dying in the process has likely contributed to recruitment, but adult males would still be mostly civilians. FourPi (talk) 07:53, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
So what do you think about this phrasing?
"21+ Palestinian (including at least 13 civilians)"
This way we have numbers that are claimed by reliable sources, without implying whether the remaining 8 fatalities are civilians or combatants. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 09:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@FourPi Hi, what do you think about my suggestion? Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 07:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Edit request - remove incorrect reference

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The request: Please remove reference 15 from this article.

The reason: Reference 15 talks about the Tel al-Sultan massacre, not about this attack. It was probably used in this article by mistake, as it was published on the same date as this attack. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 12:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Is it still there? FourPi (talk) 03:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@FourPi Yes. Reference number 15. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 20:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think it's there as a reference for the date that Tel Al Sultan happened, for "two days after"; it looks like someone moved all the refs to the end of the paragraph. I've moved 15 next to where Tel Al Sultan is mentioned. Are the relevant refs next to matching topics now? FourPi (talk) 08:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, all seems to match now. Thank you for the update. Guy Haddad 1 (talk) 09:35, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply