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NPOV issue?
editOr whatever it is. On this article fairly minor deletion. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:49, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
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Continuing mayoralty
edit@MRSC - I see you've reverted my edits here. I agree the directly elected mayor was different to the ceremonial mayor, but there is now nothing in the article which clarifies that the article is only about the now-abolished directly elected mayoralty. Someone coming across an article called "Mayor of Torbay" might reasonably expect it to at least explain the difference between the former post and the continuing position of that name. I had tried to do that with my wording - perhaps it wasn't clear enough. Can we try and agree some compromise wording so that it's clear that there have been two types of Mayor of Torbay, one of which is continuing? Thanks Stortford (talk) 17:37, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- Some of the other directly elected mayor articles use hatnotes like on Mayor of Doncaster. The problem is I can't find anything about the Torbay civic mayor for the hatnote to link to. I think you're right about the name, it is ambiguous and perhaps needs changing. You could create a section in Torbay Council and (re)direct a hatnote there? MRSC (talk) 18:36, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm reluctant to put much at Torbay Council on the civic mayor, as that would tend to invite the addition of a long list of ceremonial post-holders changing each year, which would add a lot of text to the article but very little to the understanding of the council's operation and history. I see the Mayor of Doncaster article has a sentence: "The position is different from the long-existing and largely ceremonial, annually appointed mayors who are now known as the civic mayor of Doncaster." Could we adapt that for the Mayor of Torbay article? Perhaps: "The position was different from the largely ceremonial annually appointed mayors, who were renamed the civic mayors on the introduction of the directly elected mayor. The civic mayor role continues to exist." I don't think it needs much more than that. Stortford (talk) 05:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good. MRSC (talk) 11:17, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm reluctant to put much at Torbay Council on the civic mayor, as that would tend to invite the addition of a long list of ceremonial post-holders changing each year, which would add a lot of text to the article but very little to the understanding of the council's operation and history. I see the Mayor of Doncaster article has a sentence: "The position is different from the long-existing and largely ceremonial, annually appointed mayors who are now known as the civic mayor of Doncaster." Could we adapt that for the Mayor of Torbay article? Perhaps: "The position was different from the largely ceremonial annually appointed mayors, who were renamed the civic mayors on the introduction of the directly elected mayor. The civic mayor role continues to exist." I don't think it needs much more than that. Stortford (talk) 05:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)