Talk:Mazda (light bulb)

Trademark Status

I can't find a current trademark for Mazda held by GE. This one is all I could find in the USPTO database. Can anyone find a current one? --Aurignacian (talk) 17:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Photo in article

Untagged photo request. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:21, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Needs a reference

Shelby Electric Company as originator of the "Mazda" trademark? Needs a citation. --Wtshymanski (talk)

OK, a museum Web site [1] gives the Shelby version of the story. However this site [2] (Ed Covington) claims that Frederick P. Fish was a lawyer representing GE in 1893. But the Shelby museum says that John Chamberlain Fish started the Mazda Lamp Company in 1897. Covington says the Mazda trademark was suggested by (F.) Fish and registered (No. 77779) by GE in early 1910. All the other places I've looked don't mention Shelby at all and say GE started selling "Mazda" labelled lamps in 1909. Needs more facts. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:36, 27 January 2012 (UTC))

Frederick Samuel Fish doesn't have him working for GE. But he's a lawyer and he lived around the right time. --Wtshymanski (talk) 19:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Who were the other Mazda companies? One book says only GE and Westinghouse -that can't be all, there's more Mazda licensees listed on the Covington site. An advertisement in the IEEE PES magazine says that "30 utilities" were supplying Mazda bulbs, but an electric utility is not a bulb manufacturer. --Wtshymanski (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Nor is a supplier necessarily a manufacturer. I did some searching but wasn't able to pin down anything solid. Is there an online trademark search that goes back that far? --Guy Macon (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, yes, the 77779 trademark on the US Patent and Trademarks site does show it registered to GE in 1910, and GE claimed use in 1909. If anyone was using that mark before, they didn't register it. --Wtshymanski (talk) 20:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I totally missed that one. --Guy Macon (talk) 07:32, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

More to Mazda than the article suggests

Mazda was a trademark of light bulbs sold by AEI Industries (later Thorn-AEI) in the United Kingdom (under license?). Like most light bulb manufacturers, AEI also got into the business of selling valves (vacuum tubes) and later cathode ray tubes, most of which under the Mazda name (among others). If you bought a television set in the UK in the 1960's and the valves and CRT were not manufactured by Mullard then they would almost certainly have been the Mazda brand. 86.157.172.34 (talk) 16:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

It was AEI's subsidiary Ediswan. -85.240.215.127 (talk) 14:03, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Questionable dates.

I note that the date for the registration of the Mazda brand is given as 1909 (though no reference to support it). I have in my possession a Mazda publication that claims that the company produced the World's first ever valve (vacuum tube) to go on commercial sale (Under the unimaginative type designation of simply 'A' - and described as a Fleming oscillation valve (diode to you)). They claim that they did this in 1906. Since the job of manufacturing early valves was undertaken by pre-existing electric lamp munufacturers (as the production technology was identical), this suggests that the company Mazda way well have existed before 1906.

I have just uncovered evidence that the name Mazda was applied to tungsten lamps in 1909. However the name was used for carbon filament lamps in the 1890's, even in conjunction with Edison's name as 'Edison-Mazda' 86.181.52.76 (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Use in France?

Mazda-CIPÉL battery advertisement

Is this image, for a battery brand in France, related to this brand? the image links here, but im not sure.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 21:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

CIPÉL was the Compagnie Industrielle des Piles Électriques.

In terms of vacuum tubes, La Compagnie des Lampes (1921) and Belvu (Compagnie Industrielle Française des Tubes Electroniques - CIFTE) seem to be players here (but not British Ediswan), and a lot of Mazda logos on datasheets need to be sorted out: (1949), (1950), (1953, as LAMPE MAZDA), (1954, as LAMPE MAZDA), (1959, as LAMPE MAZDA, w/Faravahar), (1962, as LAMPE MAZDA, w/Faravahar).

• La Compagnie des Lampes (1921)'s logos
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  Zoroastrian fire pot - origin of the logo c.1949-1959
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  Faravahar depicting Ahura Mazda, God of Zoroastrianism - origin of the logo since c.1959

Furthermore, there was the Manufacture Belge des Lampes Électriques (French WP) producing lamps since 1911 under the Mazda brand ("The best light!") and electronic tubes since 1924 under the Adzam ("Mazda" backwards) brand ("The best music!"). -85.240.222.156 (talk) 17:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

BTW, Toshiba also produced lamps under the Mazda brand and this coexisted with the Japanese automaker in its early years. -85.243.125.246 (talk) 10:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

It didn't co-exist as Mazda (cars) was a subsidiary of Toshiba at that time. 86.149.143.168 (talk) 14:08, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

BTH (British Thompson Houston) Another Licensee

There is a photo that shows the BTH works (factory) in Rugby selling Mazda lamps. I would like to add that to the licensee section with a citation but am unclear about the copyright for the image.

https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrrm880.htm

In Popular Culture

The bulb features in the popular song "Glow Worm" (recording by many, but possibly most famously by The Mills Brothers):

Glow little glow-worm, turn the key on
You are equipped with taillight neon
You got a cute vest-pocket *Mazda*
Which you can make both slow and faster
I don't know who you took the shine to
Or who you're out to make a sign to
I got a gal that I love so
Glow little glow-worm, glow
Glow little glow-worm, glow
Glow little glow-worm, glow
Glow little glow-worm, glow