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Better Known

Stephen Colbert better knew her.

Buddhism

On other pages that mention Mazie Hirono some have questioned whether she is actually a Buddhist. As this page seems fine the way it is currently, I thought I'd leave these refs here in the talk page in case some future argument on the issue develops.

http://www.dicksonherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061222/NEWS06/612220409/1297/MTCN02 Hirono was raised in Buddhist traditions but said she is not a practicing Buddhist. She said the Buddhist values of truth, wisdom and peace are part of what led her to public service. Hirono is adamant that there should be separation of church and state. "I think that political leaders should not infuse religion as a central part of why they do anything," Hirono said. "When I serve, I do my best in terms of what is good for the community, what is just, what is fair." The interplay between faith and politics also can be seen in the efforts of two Democrats, Davis of Tennessee and Catholic Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio, to reduce the number of abortions. Friday, 12/22/06 Faith, politics may mix on new issues Next Congress most religiously diverse in history By BILL THEOBALD Tennessean Washington Bureau

From Gannett News Service: “Rep. Mazie Hirono, a Hawaii Democrat who was raised in the Buddhist tradition but doesn’t actively practice the religion, said, “I don’t have a book. … But I certainly believe in the precepts of Buddhism and that of tolerance of other religions and integrity and honesty.” http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=60,3603,0,0,1,0

--Wowaconia 00:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

This information is in the article, is it okay to remove it from the infobox? Seems erroneous. --Wgbc2032 20:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Incomplete paragraphs

"Hirono won re-election to a second term with 76% of the vote.[21] She outperformed Obama, a native of Honulu, by three points."

Huh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.196.194 (talk) 20:10, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

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2008 Sugar Bowl Travel?

Why is the "2008 Sugar Bowl Travel" section here? Why is this significant enough to be mentioned in the article, much less to have its own section? Unless someone can explain it, it should be deleted. —KCinDC (talk) 15:06, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Name

Her name is currently given in Japanese with the kanji 広野慶子, but on the Japanese Wikipedia her name is given in katakana as メイジー・ヒロノ. Following the example of the Patsy Mink article, I am planning to change her name to the katakana version, unless someone objects. Hajikami (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Why is it necessary to include her name in Japanese at all? Anyhow, regardless of of the Japanese Wikipedia entry, she was born in Japan, so her name should be written in kanji. Why would it be otherwise? While Japanese write non native Japanese names in katakana, she is a native Japanese. While it is not always possible to infer what kanji a Japanese person uses for there name, katakana is merely phonetic, so its inclusion serves no purpose.121.119.170.19 (talk)

Why? Because she is from Japan and that is her name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.196.194 (talk) 20:11, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

"Why would it be otherwise?" Issue is two people can have the same sounding name in Japanese, and both have the same katakana spelling, but you have to verify what kanji symbols they use for their name. Which kanjis are used determines the meaning of their name. So the kanjis used as above, 広野慶子, say hirono keiko. Both hirono and keiko can be written with other kanji and still be pronounced EXACTLY the same. You would have to check with person or their family to confirm what kanjis are used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1621:251C:157D:FAF3:34A9:AC56 (talk) 01:32, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Add a paragraph

"Early Political Activism" "In this new paragraph, it would be helpful if Ms. Hirono could include her activism of bringing women into electoral politics represents an interesting interaction between political parties and women organization."Careymur (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Careymur. Thank you for your contributions. I've removed the section that you added to the article because I think it needs some cleanup before being added. Because this is a biography for Representative Hirono, excessive detail on NOW that is not directly related to Hirono shouldn't be included. The first two paragraphs you added had nothing to do with her. The third, while mentioning Hirono, reads more like an essay for a class project than what we usually include in political biographies. The fourth paragraph seemed more in line with what we expect for biographies like this, but I wasn't sure what relevance Bob Casey's proposal has to do with Hirono - also, Hillary Clinton is no longer a Senator. Gobōnobo ^{+ c} 04:27, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

committee assignments

Sen.-Elect Hirono will also serve on the Veterans Affairs and Energy and Natural Resources Committees. 74.69.11.229 (talk) 21:57, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Accomplishments

The article is very weak on Hirono's accomplishments as an elected official. How has she improved the lives of her constituents? What legislation has she introduced? Sponsored? Championed? What are her goals as senator and how has she worked to meet them? —ADavidB 23:45, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Kavanaugh comments

In September 2018, Senator Hirono said in relation to Supreme Court Judge Brett Kavanaugh's nomination, associated accusations, and the Senate Judiciary Committee, "Guess who's perpetuating all of these kind of actions? It's the men in this country," she told reporters. "And I just want to say to the men in this country: Just shut up and step up."

This may be a newsworthy soundbite of topical interest, but Wikipedia is not a news aggregator or an indiscriminate collection of quotations. It may have been added originally to "inform the people" about Hirono's views (I guess because the public is meant to be scandalized by these dastardly words of "Senator Horino", as the original contributor so trollishly called her), but that's not Wikipedia's mission either. "The people" can get all the juicy details from the regular news if that's what they are interested in.

The fact that men commit the majority of sexual assaults (and other crimes) is not a secret, as anyone who looks at Sex differences in crime can easily see.The text might fit well into Brett Kavanaugh Supreme Court nomination, but there's no clue as to what the remarks have to do with Hirono's own biography. So I don't see a particular reason to keep this text in the article. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

These comments received broader coverage than a topical "soundbite", and brought her both negative and positive reaction. For those made during the Kavanaugh hearings, the Associated Press wrote that while often "low-key", she "unexpectedly became one of the most outspoken senators in defense of" Ford. If one thinks her comments may be taken out of context, let's make them clearer (via sourced content), rather than remove them completely. Months before, NPR wrote a separate article on Hirono's "quiet rage". In May, TIME wrote that her anti-Trump comments "turned the soft-spoken Senator into a sudden star". —ADavidB 02:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

References

The AP ref provides some minimal context – it's better than nothing, but still in the realm of single-news-cycle trivia, in my opinion. Many sound bites receive wide coverage, by the way – that's what they're intended for. They transcend being mere sound bites when they get enduring and in-depth coverage. That sort of coverage is still lacking here. Inferring anything about a broader pattern of "quiet rage" or "rebukes" to Trump would be original research. We can and should include a reference to the "sudden star" bit, but it has no real bearing on the Kavanaugh comments, which were in fact not about Trump. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 06:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Since the existing info was criticized as too focused on the Kavanaugh event, I suggested expanding the context about the subject's emergence in 2018 as an outspoken critic of the president and his administration. It now seems that a broader perspective – from these or other sources –  is being criticized as not centered enough on the Kavanaugh event. I'm proposing we use sourced content to more fully describe Hirono's tenure in the Senate, including her part in the Kavanaugh hearings, not including any original research of mine or other WP editors. —ADavidB 13:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

That's great and I agree the section can and should be expanded. But the NPR and Time sources don't offer any context to the "shut up and step up" quote, which was the point of this discussion, not "the Kavanaugh event". Therefore these sources don't make her comments "clearer" at all. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I'd appreciate your or others' input and suggestions regarding other such sources. They're not that difficult to find, if an editor wants to find them. Here are some more, beyond those I've already identified, along with one potentially helpful quotation (of perhaps more) from each:

• "'Shut up and step up': Sen. Hirono’s blunt message to men", The Washington Post, September 19, it was what Hirono said in response to a reporter's question that turned the most heads
• "Sen. Hirono: Men Need To 'Shut Up,' Kavanaugh Accuser Needs To Be Believed And I Believe Her", RealClear Politics, September 18, I expect the members of the press to talk about how unfair that is. ... I expect the men in this country and the men in this committee because we all signed on to this letter to demand an FBI investigation.
• "Hirono to men: 'Shut up and step up', The Hill, September 18, Why should we participate in a victimization of a person who has the courage to come forward?
• "Hirono has a message to men: 'Shut up and step up', Hawaii News Now, September 18, There are four women on the Senate Judiciary Committee and Hirono said their potential presence at the hearing 'helps.'
• "Sen. Mazie Hirono's message to American men: 'Just shut up and step up' , ABC News, September 18, Though Democrats and Republicans on the committee have both said they believe Ford deserves to be heard, they're at odds over the way to do so.

—ADavidB 00:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Mazie Hirono

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Mazie Hirono's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "General election results":

• From 2010 United States House of Representatives elections in Hawaii: Haas, Karen L. (2011). "Statistics of the Congressional Election of November 2, 2010" (PDF). {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
• From Martin Heinrich: http://clerk.house.gov/member_info/electionInfo/2010election.pdf

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:20, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

The formerly orphaned citation reference now has content, based on the above link(s). —ADavidB 01:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

“Just shut up”

There appears to be vandalism in the first paragraph of this article. The senators name appears to have been vandalized Chefjoshua1999 (talk) 00:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Chefjoshua1999: fixed, thanks for your report. power~enwiki (π, ν) 00:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Congressional dean

Brian Schatz is listed as Hawaii's dean but Hirono's page lists her as the dean. Who is who? — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuantumBlink314 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

It depends on what is counted, i.e. dean of 'what'. They're both now U.S. Senators from Hawaii, and Schatz has been in that office longer (making him the 'senior' senator). Hirono however was previously a member of the U.S. House for three terms, so she has the most U.S. congressional service (counting both House and Senate). Hirono's article makes it clear both are counted for the claim. —ADavidB 22:16, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

New lead image

Following suit with Dick Durbin and Bernie Sanders, these outdated official portraits from a decade ago should be replaced with recent images. Here's some potential replacements and let's vote as to whether we should change the image. I personally prefer B. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 01:49, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

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  Option A (current; 2013)
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  Option E (2019)

Keep. Other than being outdated, I think A is the best image. My next choice would be D. —ADavidB 04:07, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Keep It's the best image, she looks the same, honestly, and I prefer official due to the quality above anything else. Missvain (talk) 16:36, 8 October 2021 (UTC)